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I've heard that 0 is mathematically considered a number. Anyone got a proof that 0 is a number?
[9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran
I've got exactly zero proof. :(
9/30/2006 11:07:19 AM
Try doing simultaneous equations without it!
9/30/2006 11:07:44 AM
Come back to Maths?
9/30/2006 11:32:59 AM
The fact that the \"numbers\" are considered numbers is just an universal agreement. There is no physical \"proof\" for what, naturally, is a number outside of that agreement.
9/30/2006 12:27:17 PM
Break out the Cluebats.
9/30/2006 12:43:57 PM
Later on t.w. said he just wanted to find a way to demonstrate that zero is a number because people had been claiming that it is not. However another poster, \"untermensche\", actually argued throughout the entire thread that zero is not a number.
9/30/2006 12:48:55 PM
0 is not a number! It is a free man!
9/30/2006 3:29:21 PM
Not really fundie, just stupid.
9/30/2006 6:45:56 PM
Hold on ... hold it ... I've got a proof ... now what the hell did I do with that thing?
9/30/2006 7:41:58 PM
Zero does not require proof, because it is defined to exist.
There are number systems without a 0 in them. Not vector spaces, mind you, but number systems nonetheless.
9/30/2006 9:34:49 PM
It's what my clue meter's reading right now.
10/1/2006 2:10:58 PM
\"untermensche\" Isn't that what the nazi's called the jews? A term meaning 'inhuman'?
Sounds like a warm and brainy bunch over there. *sarcasm*
10/2/2006 7:24:51 AM
hey t.w. I have the proof here.
0 is just the half of 8. 8 is actually two zeros together. Then, if 8 is a number (that's still undemonstrated) then 0 is half a number. To get a whole number you have to join two zeros. That's the reason why $100 notes are worth more than $10. Don't let them fool you.
10/2/2006 9:46:31 AM
...It's...defined as such?
10/5/2006 12:12:38 PM
But if it wasn't, the dividing by 0 problem would be gone.
11/7/2006 1:20:08 AM
0 is a mutation of the number 8 because it threatened to blaspheme the Holy Toast. Unless it repents immediately, forthwith and posthaste it may end up wheelchair-bound. Praise the all-loving Jesus.
11/7/2006 1:46:29 AM
Marching proudly into the 6th Century BC.
12/31/2006 5:41:06 AM
As long as your computer doesn't say \"
\", its a number.
12/31/2006 5:51:28 AM
anyone got proof that t.w. isn't an idiot? Yeah, me neither.
12/31/2006 6:40:49 AM
Tiny Bulcher: So if Number 1 was actually Number 6, what does that make Number 0?
(Sorry, but the final episode confused the hell out of me.)
12/31/2006 11:09:34 AM
The different number systems are all constructed by simpler elements and rules. In most, 0 happens to become defined as an element of that set. That is why it's a number in those number systems. Similarly for infinity, though it's usually
And, by the way,
take a friggin' math course!
I think natural and whole were covered in 1st grade. We were what?--six, seven years old when we learned that zero is a number?
12/31/2006 8:54:34 PM
Look out! Numerical Theory is about to be debunked! Or...not. Try again, buddy.
11/14/2007 1:23:18 PM
If you can have debt...0 is a number!
5/23/2009 5:05:23 AM
Yes, 0 is your IQ.
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