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[What if you went before God when you died - and discovered that it was Allah? What would you do?]

If the above happened, then I would be glad that I'd had the opportunity to live for Jesus while upon the earth, and refuse the presence of Allah.

This is the question martyrs face: will my faith hold in the face of death? If I want the answer to that question to be yes, then I make preparations (i.e., I live my life) beforehand to acheive that glorious outcome!

The Virginian, Christian Forums 16 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Brain_In_A_Jar

So, if you died and ended up in the presence of a god other than your own, you'd tell him to his face that you didn't believe he existed? Smart move.

9/30/2006 11:05:00 AM

Matilde

What the hell aren´t they able to answer us a simple question?, let´s repeat it in a dummy fashion. If you discovered that your beliefs were wrong, what would you do?, how do you justify ALL THE SUFFERING you have caused into others, sprouting us a lie?

9/30/2006 11:28:31 AM

NotMe

So if he can't get into heaven with Jesus, he'd rather be in hell?

9/30/2006 12:31:08 PM

Crosis

I don't think that was the question he asked, dummy. Not \"will you worship Allah to save your life\", but \"what happens if you die, and you see that you were wrong and the real God is one from a different religion?\"

9/30/2006 12:42:42 PM

Nepthys

So you would mis out on the seventeen nubile virgins in Paradise?

9/30/2006 1:24:12 PM

Old Viking

Question: What would you do if you discovered Allah is God?

Answer: ... will my faith hold in the face of death? If I want the answer ... to be yes, then I make preparations ...
to achieve that glorious end.

That's some disconnect.

What would you do if you discovered Allah is God?

472 on Friday.

9/30/2006 7:59:46 PM

Data

Wait wait - if he gets total and incontrovertible evidence that his God is false.. he'll still beleive in him?

What the hell?

9/30/2006 11:05:14 PM

Julian

Bad news sunshine - Allah needs virgins, 72 of, for all those suicide bombers...

You're up!

10/1/2006 1:00:27 PM

Redhunter

Now that's some faith, and of course by faith I mean stupid.

10/2/2006 7:14:50 AM

xplicit_UK

Sorry for shouting, but: IT'S THE SAME FUCKING GOD!!!! You really don't get it, do you?

10/4/2006 1:43:28 AM

Maronan

Hm, this is an example of mental block similar to the fundies' response to atheism. They can't understand the idea that some people have no gods, so they replace \"atheism\" with \"maltheism\" or \"misotheism\" and respond as such. In this case, they can't understand that they could possibly be wrong, so they substitute the question: \"What if you died and found out that another religion was right?\" with \"What if someone threatened to kill you for being Christian?\"

11/6/2006 11:48:24 PM

Gjervan

Not only is Allah the same God, but according to the Qua'aran, Christianity and Judaism are counted as "true" faiths... and I have understood that in Islam it is your deeds, not your faith, that is important.

1/5/2008 1:13:55 AM

BCD

and I have understood that in Islam it is your deeds, not your faith, that is important.

That's not the way I've seen muslims behave. Seems that all you have to do is be "muslim" and you're going to heaven. If you were a particularly good muslim, you get your 72 virgins faster. If you were bad, you have a longer line to stand in. If you die a martyr - you get in the express lane.

Of course, you have to be in the right sect of islam to get all of the above...sound familiar?

1/5/2008 3:54:27 AM

Sweet Fancy Moses

"If the above happened, then I would be glad that I'd had the opportunity to live for Jesus while upon the earth, and refuse the presence of Allah."

And I'm glad my life on Earth was given to knowledge and not hindering, but rather helping how I could, the furtherance of mankind, and refusing your bloodthirsty and sadistic god.

2/8/2010 4:20:02 PM



The funny thing is that, according to your merciless preaching, we should believe in your particular branch of faith because of the afterlife. And martyrdom is, by definition, an earthly affair.

2/6/2011 5:53:56 AM

Pro-Christian Anti-Fundie

Well, I don't think it'd make much of a difference, since I'm almost certain Allah and God are the same Abrahamic God, but for the sake of this argument, let's assume they are not. The first half of your response is ok, assuming you actually lived by Jesus' teachings and not being an intolerant, hate-spewing asshole to people. And hell, if you DID do that, you'd probably be let in anyway, seeing as how you were doing good deeds on Earth anyway. But I think the second would get you sent to Hell, assuming Allah's trying to give you a second chance. And isn't that what you want to avoid?

Oh, and assuming they are the same, and He just happens to prefer being called Allah in heaven (which honestly wouldn't surprise me that much) then you just rejected GOD, and are being sent to Hell anyway for throwing away your entire belief system right in front of Him just because He decided to speak a little Arabic.

Either way, stupid response.

12/12/2011 2:19:12 AM
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