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[closed thread title: Does your work affect you position on evolution?]

Yes, I work as a oil distributor. Because of this I have had to take three courses in lubrication, and filtration. Learning the history of how some base stocks of oils came to be. And why. Plus that there are ways to make petroleum oil, in less than a day. Made me realize that the millions of years of decay for dinos, and biomass to make crude oil. Does not take millions of years. Which made me search for evidence as to how science came to this conclusion.

What I found is that this conclusion is based on an assumption and not fact. And there is no evidence that the break down of such materials takes that long. But what I did find was that other people took and applied the same conditions, found in the ground, to simuliar materials (turkey, chicken parts. And sewage) and made oil in less than a day.
I found that the only reason that science made the claim of millions of years is because they say dinos lived that far back. And they knew that a lot of the material that oil was made from, came from them. So without testing the assumption, it was accepted and taught as fact. Fact with no scientific testing or method or evidence.

This is one of the many things that set me on a course of doubting evolution, and accepting creation.

Ikester7579, bibleforums.org 24 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Murdock

Because you and you alone have been able to \"disprove\" evolution with you \"facts\" and \"tests\", which I'm sure you haven't actually done yourself, and the only reason that it hasn't been official is because you, for some reason, haven't spoken up.

9/30/2006 7:35:56 PM

Matilde

So, you haven´t made any experiment or checked, but just because you say so we must believe it?, nuts.

9/30/2006 7:47:11 PM

Rysith

Somehow, I don't think that we have energy-positive synthetic fossil fuels yet. If we did, do you really think that we would be spending all this time and money to pump it out of the middle east?

Also, we can't have Synthetic fossil fuels yet because we don't have plasma steel armor yet (bonus points to anyone who gets the reference)

9/30/2006 7:58:15 PM

ryan

fuck peak oil all we need is chickens turkey and sewage.

9/30/2006 8:11:41 PM

solomongrundy

Show me one oil company that searches for oil reserves using a young earth, flood geology model.

9/30/2006 8:12:25 PM

Nostromo

Well, nobody said you need a brain to be an oil distributor...

9/30/2006 8:44:32 PM

Veinor

Rysith: Nice ref. I love that game, especially with the expansion.

9/30/2006 9:14:48 PM

Archangel_Lucifer

\"Show me one oil company that searches for oil reserves using a young earth, flood geology model.\"

So True!

9/30/2006 9:30:06 PM

Sandman

How frightening. Someone who works in the oil industry who believes that, under normal, natural conditions, oil forms in less than a day.

Um...earth to fuckwit! If oil formed in less than a day, we would call it a renewable resource like trees or water. And it would be dirt-ass cheap as well.

For a slice of reality...they have in fact generated something approximating crude oil in about a day in the laboratory. By subjecting it to immense pressures and heat. The kind of pressure and heat you could find naturally, but only at the center of the bloody earth. And it took about a thousand times the energy contained in that \"new\" oil to create it. All in all, not a sound strategy for producing energy.

By \"oil distributer,\" you must mean the lotion boy at Sandals Resorts.

9/30/2006 10:10:48 PM

Klaus

Err ... Alpha Centauri, right? Yes, nice game.
What I think about this entry, it is especially confusing because he puts together dinosaurs and oil. All oil comes from dinos and dinos alone? I think this oil distributor thinks that science thinks (well, kind of thinking) the vast amounts can only come from dinos because they were so big. All other animals were too small.

9/30/2006 10:15:52 PM

Tiny Bulcher

So make oil out of trash in less than a day, and make yourself a fortune.

9/30/2006 10:55:04 PM

NotMe

The games name has already been mentioned. Now I can't get the bonus nerd points...

I feel miserable. [/sarcasm]

But this guy is stupid. You can not gt oil by burying some chicken in your back yard. If that worked oil would be far cheaper and there wouldn't be (have been) this whole war business going on in most of the middle east where America and Europe are involved (Irak, Afghanistan, Kuwait).

10/1/2006 12:41:01 AM

Moe

If people could make oil, why would they bother drilling for it? Why build a pipeline in Alaska, or screw around in the Middle East, when all they have to do is bury their trash? If you want to pretend to work for an oil company, at least do some research first.

10/1/2006 1:07:22 AM

Julian

biodiesel is not crude oil you fuckwit!

It burns, but it's not that useful for making polymers and plastics and the myriad of actual uses we should be keeping crude oil for!

Ikester7579's submitted a ton of strawmen and insanity - only one award to date. At least he mixes them up though!

10/1/2006 12:03:58 PM

The Jamo

I love it how they pick on the scientific method for not being based on \"fact\" and evidence, yet at the same time, they believe in god based on the very same lack. WTF?

10/1/2006 1:10:30 PM

Redhunter

Great! I'm gonna drill for black gold in my local cemetery!

Oil distributer? So you work at a convenience store? Oh, I get it now. (no offence to anyone who does this for a living. I've done it myself and my best friend is currently working at one, but this guy mentions it like it makes him an expert on oil)

If he actually took 'classes' and still came up with this bizarre theory, it clearly shows he wasn't paying attention or that the 'classes' were bullshit.

BTW, where can I teach lubrication to some college co-eds? I eagerly await a response.

10/2/2006 6:04:35 AM

Mister Spak

\"Because of this I have had to take three courses in lubrication, and filtration.\"

And these courses told you all about radioactive dating and how to turn dinosaurs into oil.

IDEA!!! Why are there not dinosaurs? Because after they got off the ark, Noah used them to make oil.

10/2/2006 7:45:30 PM

NonHomogenized

Obviously, Ikester didn't do much research. The reactions that produce petroleum use the remains of microorganisms, not large animals.

Also, as Julian said, biodiesel is not crude petroleum.

Finally,
Show me one oil company that searches for oil reserves using a young earth, flood geology model.


quoted because it's such a good point.

10/2/2006 11:11:57 PM



Well he is correct that there are companies that canmake oil from waste.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis

Of course he is mistaken in his belief thatit is absolute that oil can be made in thousand ofyears. What is need is mainly heat and pressure.

10/26/2006 5:35:55 AM



ah here it is thermal depolymerization .
http://itotd.com/articles/205/oil-from-garbage/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization

10/26/2006 5:40:30 AM



No wonder you're not a biologist. That isn't evolution.

6/19/2008 12:52:16 AM

Saringuy

oil? do you know how old that stuff is?

6/4/2012 11:37:48 AM

Swede

You do know that there is a difference between crude oil (that black stuff) and food oil (the yellowish one), right? Just checking...

OK, you started doubting evolution, but what made you accept creation? It has no evidence whatsoever in favor of it, and tons upon tons of evidence against it. It's not even assumptions, it's just a bunch of myths and legends and fairy tales.

6/4/2012 1:07:05 PM

Canadiest

"turkey, chicken parts. And sewage) and made oil in less than a day."

Because these have oils, if you're so fuckin' smart you'd know that. Ancient vegetatation makes up most Oil fields and you can extract it from live plants, soybean, corn and others are produced directly for that in some markets. And Of course you can make workable oil in a day from animal waste, still a refining process asshole, why the fuck do you think we went after whales (some still do) for centuries?

This idiots in a screening process section of the plant. And he's new. And he has no clue what oil actually is.

6/4/2012 6:01:32 PM
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