Are there ANY orthodox Jews on this site, or are all the Jews around here God-haters just like the atheists?
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I thought the whole point was that loving god is the only thing non orthodox Jews do have in common with orthodox Jews.
And, as papabear said, why waste your energy hating something you don't believe exists? Hell, why waste your energy hating?
Personally, I don't hate. I don't even hate Phelps, I wish he'd shut up and maybe even die, but I don't hate him. Hating costs effort which I can spend on more productive things than thinking about people I don't like.
I don't know where I heard it, but the opposite of loving isn't hating. It's apathy.
maybe brent wants someone to shove a banana up his ass?
Yet another point to add to the list of why the banana was obviously created!
Ve muzt verk to eliminate ze Guhd-hating chews az zoon az pozzible from ziss zite, und zen from ze whole vorld. I'm zure iff ve put our mindz to ze prublem, a final zolution vill prezent itzelff, yah?
Mein Führer, I can walk!
Because only orthodox Jews are real Jews, and all other Jews hate God?
Difference is mostly in how strict you follow laws.
Atheists don't hate things they believe to be imaginary. It would be like hating, I dunno, a flying cucumber.
I think an atheist can hate god under certain conditions.
Even an atheist will acknowledge that god exists on a conceptual level. He dosn't exist in the concrete but you can hate him in the same way you hate a concept.
For example one could say "I hate racism." Racism is conceptual, you can't carry a bucket of racism or take a photo of it (you can only take a photo of it's consequneces) but it's a concept that causes people to adopt certain awful behaviors.
If the idea of god causes similar behaviors in those who believe god is a true entity an atheist can hate god as an abstract concept.
Actually, NotMe, hate is the opposite of love, working from the most reliable definition; Love is a state in which your happiness depends on the welfare and happiness of another, while hate is a state where your happiness depends on the lack thereof. Logical?
Zipperback: you have a good point, but the christian god were a supposed to hate is allegedly concrete, not a concept. the concept of god you mention is known as religion, and some atheists certainly do hate some religions.
A Jew by deffinition is someone who worships a god named Jehova/Yawah/El-shadi., Most jews also Love this god they worship.
An atheist by deffinition, does not believe in any gods, and so can neither love nor hate any gods,
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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