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Just recently my son Bobby came out to me. I had been worried for awhile. His teachers said most of his grades were slipping and he seemed depressed and withdrawn.

Bobby said he'd been hiding it for awhile because he was afraid I would reject him. I sat him down and told him that I loved him and that God loved him, but that his salvation was in danger if he did not resist his unnatural tempations. I told him how being gay would mean he would live a shorter life, and that if he couldnt change his orientation he could be celibate like most the ex-gays are. He started crying saying something along the lines of "I knew you wouldnt understand! You're just like everyone else!" before running to his room and slamming the door.

What did I do wrong? I dont want to lose my son, but I fear I already have. I talked it over with his therapist, who had the ludicrous idea that homosexuality was unchangable and that trying to repress could lead to lots of psychological damage (I've dropped him and will try to be finding another therapist with more moral beliefs). I wouldnt be surprised if he's the one who's feeding my son all the homosexual propaganda about how its 'ok' to be gay. That, or how homosexuality has engulfed the media, making it seem 'cool' and 'hip' and how they were just another oppressed minority. You didnt have to worry about seeing two men making out on tv at my age! I dont want to sound like a fanatic, but Im worried what other effects will come out of this increasingly secular, immoral society obsessed with filth.

Am I too late? Or is it possible to save my son


[Note: the boy eventually took his own life.]

Betty, Unidiversal 672 Comments [12/10/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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MK

I'd say you're too late, and yes, you do sound like a fanatic.

12/11/2006 6:47:29 PM

Ed

Wow. I hope the kid didn't end up committing suicide. This Betty seems nice enough, if brainwashed. Dammit, lady. You stuck to your guns, yes, and...

Makes me sick. It really does. But how else would she have been able to handle it? Blame the Bible for this, not her. And not her son.

12/11/2006 6:56:28 PM

Traitor1

i hope he didn't take his own life. People should keep their book of hate to themselves.

12/11/2006 7:34:45 PM

Phantasmagoria

http://www.freejesus.net/home/viewtopic.php?p=43691#43691

Tragically, Betty's son did end up committing suicide. Some of the peoples comments in that thread are really sick.

12/11/2006 7:53:58 PM

Madame Scarlet

You are a horrible mother.

Edit: All right, that was a bit harsh, because she honestly doesn't know any better due to brainwashing. She obviously loved her son very much. But this is part of why I hate religion. Well-meaning parents can never know how to properly handle situations like this because of hateful lies they've been fed.

12/11/2006 8:27:20 PM

NotMe

You take a psychologist on his \"moral beliefs\" instead of adherence to \"Proven Facts\" and \"Real Diploma\"?

That's fucked up.

12/11/2006 9:08:49 PM

Napoleon the Clown

Stop and think about what you told your son. You just told him that he is a vile, evil, inhuman creature.

And the therapist is right. Homosexuality is not bad, and it is nothing that can be \"cured\".

12/11/2006 9:13:59 PM

Matilde

You´re too late and you´ll find no honest therapist who will tell you what you want to hear. Actually that´s what one nun of my school said when she told a mother that he´s son can´t turn heterosexual. Identical answer. Now she´s ruined because she trusted idiots who promised her lies to get her money. And of course, her son is both homosexual and Catholic.

12/11/2006 9:29:04 PM

Man Called True

So... right now, Betty, you believe you did nothing wrong, but that your son is burning in hell because he ended his life over the strain of living with a mother who, because of her beliefs, rejected what he was.

If there is a hell, it waits for you. And as far as I'm concerned, you can't go there too soon.

12/11/2006 9:30:14 PM

maja

'But if I had been nicer and said I didnt mind, he probably wouldnt have killed himself.'
Telling kids they are godless,worthless, filth really, really hurts lady. So yes, if you were more accepting/nicer/
supporting he would be probably still alive!

12/11/2006 10:25:01 PM

Old Viking

Too sad for comment.

12/11/2006 10:35:31 PM

FishyFred

This is probably the saddest thing I've ever read on FSTDT for all the reasons people have already mentioned: The kid could have been saved; the mother loved her son but didn't know any better.

But this brings up a serious question:

\"You take a psychologist on his \"moral beliefs\" instead of adherence to \"Proven Facts\" and \"Real Diploma\"?\"

In this situation, after he was dropped, should a psychologist have a responsibility to report the incident to DYFS or child services?

12/11/2006 11:06:58 PM

Miss Sweet

I read some of the forum, and I really don't think it's her fault. It's the indoctrinating asspipes she listens to who are to blame.

Seriously, what's wrong with being gay if you go out with other gay people? WTF?

12/11/2006 11:24:15 PM

Hadanelith

This is just saddening.

12/11/2006 11:27:40 PM

Walnut

Your son does not need saving - YOU, dear Betty, need the saving.
Homosexuality does not mean a shorter life span that heterosexuals - except in your case when your son killed himself.
Homosexuality has NOT engulfed the media, unless you get LOGO, where I would have to agree with you. Most teenager guys (and even girls) nowadays are extremely reluctant to ever DREAM being anything other than straight.

If you ever meet someone in the same situation - tell them not to make the same mistakes you did. It can save lives!

12/11/2006 11:50:59 PM

szenah

I just read the comments in that thread. I think I'm going to be sick now.

12/12/2006 12:01:32 AM

The Last Conformist

Betty's son was a victim of her inhumane beliefs. But so is she - I can't help feeling bad for her.

12/12/2006 12:57:00 AM

Drakeal

Fool. Homosexuality IS unchangable, or so close it doesn't matter. And how does it feel, knowing you killed your own son?

12/12/2006 1:00:50 AM

Goetian

I come to this site for humor. I was surprised to see something so tragic.

Crazy fundie beliefs are well and good until you inflict them on others. Then things like this happen.

Everyone in this situation is pitiable: the poor son who only wanted to be accepted, and the mother who obviously truly cares for her son but was too brainwashed to know what was best for him.

I certainly don't think now is the time for jokes and wisecracks at their expense.

12/12/2006 1:07:31 AM

FishyFred

I hope I don't come off as insensitive, but I would like throw out there that the use of the word \"ludicrous\" seemed to be a parody in nature, as though this person was making fun of anti-gay bigots.

Example: \"You say homosexuality is permanent? Why, that's ludicrous!\"

It's a terrible tragedy if it's true, but I don't trust everything I read on the internet.

12/12/2006 2:05:19 AM

John

Complete horseshit

12/12/2006 2:06:24 AM

Jerod T.

Isn't this the same person who found the magazine in the son's room and assumed he had a secret girlfriend who left it?

And, while it's true this just might be false, I don't doubt this type of thing happens every few weeks at least...

~Jerod T.

12/12/2006 2:50:06 AM

Nekhbet

You stupid woman, you sacrificed you own child for your hideous prejudices. Not once did you stop to think of how much pain that child was enduring. In fundie words you can understand; they wouldn't be gay unless God wanted them to be gay. Any god that creates you one way and then expects you to go against your own nature is a total asshole and not worthy of worship or respect.

12/12/2006 3:11:58 AM

ND

Congrats, you just drove your son to suicide.

12/12/2006 3:46:28 AM

socktree

Most good therapists will never tell her what she wants to hear, that it is sin. Why? Because it's unethical.

A trans friend went to a shrink at his community college for his self-esteem problems. Right off, the shrink said it was because he \"thinks\" he's trans.

I told my friend to report the shrink, for unethical practices.

12/12/2006 4:51:15 AM
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