Quote# 19947

[Amazon Review of "Steve Allen on the Bible, Religion, and Morality"]

Has he not read Phillip Johnson, William Dembski, Michael Behe, Michael Denton, and others?.... He denies all essential doctrine of the Bible: a recent creation, the fall, the flood, the dispersion of mankind from Babel as a result of the confusion of language, the Messiah, who Jesus was/is, the diety of Christ, His death on the cross, His resurrection, things to come, all of it! [...]

His mind is really closed, something he frequently accuses others of being. If I had this book dirtying up my library, it would be there as an outstanding example of narrow-minded ignorance, faulty logic and reasoning, and plain dishonesty. He knows nothing of true science....

James O. Dritt, Amazon.com 28 Comments [1/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Papabear

\"Has he not read Phillip Johnson, William Dembski, Michael Behe, Michael Denton, and others?....\"

Aside from that fact that Steve Allen has been dead for several years, he may have read some works by those authors, found them largely worthless and choosen to ignore them.


\"He denies all essential doctrine of the Bible: a recent creation, the fall, the flood, the dispersion of mankind from Babel as a result of the confusion of language, the Messiah, who Jesus was/is, the diety of Christ, His death on the cross, His resurrection, things to come, all of it!\"

Indeed. He and most other reasoning persons deny the \"essential doctrine of the Bible\" and rely on facts and credible evidence.

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\"His mind is really closed, something he frequently accuses others of being.\"

Having an open mind doesn't mean one accepts any wild crap that comes along. Just supply some credible, compelling evidence to support Christian theology and I will be happy to reconsider my position.


\"If I had this book dirtying up my library, it would be there as an outstanding example of narrow-minded ignorance, faulty logic and reasoning, and plain dishonesty.\"

There are few examples of logic and reasoning more faulty than belief in Christianity.


\"He knows nothing of true science....\"

Who knows nothing of science?

1/28/2007 1:22:50 PM

Blue Lithium

His mind is really closed, something he frequently accuses others of being. If I had this book dirtying up my library, it would be there as an outstanding example of narrow-minded ignorance, faulty logic and reasoning, and plain dishonesty.

My irony meter just exploded.

1/28/2007 1:24:03 PM

Raggy

If irony was money this guy would have just won the freaking lottery.

1/28/2007 1:30:18 PM

Matilde

Sorry, but the Dieity of Christ, the corss and the Ressurrection are not in the domain of science. Neither are the flood, the age of the earth is not 6000 years and there is not proof of the tower of Babel. Who´s narro-minded now, dear?

1/28/2007 1:36:05 PM

anevilmeme

Death by Irony.
Beyond that a couple of things. The ID movement goes out of its way to say they aren't young earth creationists. So after citing the gods of ID the idiot cites the bullshit of fall, flood and tower of Babel. Can't you fundie assclowns get it together and come up with a logically consistant pile of bullshit?

1/28/2007 1:58:23 PM

Hadanelith

*fizzle*

There goes the fuse on my irony meter. Great thing about digital irony meters - replacing fuses is a lot cheaper.

1/28/2007 2:22:25 PM

John

Has he not read Phillip Johnson, William Dembski, Michael Behe, Michael Denton, and others?

Well it's clear that Mr. Dritt hasn't. Dembski and Behe, at least, have acknowledged that the earth is old. Phillip Johnson, when asked directly, stated he favors the old earth theory, but leaves himself an out by admitting he's accepting the word of scientists on this and maybe they're wrong. All of these guys get a lot of their support from guys like Jimmy Dritt who think Dembski, et. al. support the Genesis story, so they're usually careful not to come out too explicitly against the Young Earthers lest it cut into their book sales.

1/28/2007 3:05:17 PM

Nedraed

That's it, I'm just going to stop buying these irony meters...

1/28/2007 3:09:39 PM

Tzelemel

Wow... the irony is strong in this one.

1/28/2007 4:52:03 PM

Osiris

Look, you don't have to believe in all that malarky to believe in God.

1/28/2007 5:28:26 PM

Adrian


1/28/2007 7:03:16 PM

BurntBush

I've read Paul Bunyan, and it said that the Grand Canyon was created by him and Babe westling. I don't believe it either.

1/28/2007 7:19:24 PM

Prager

I haven't read the book or looked at the thread but I am willing to go out on a limb here and say that Allen's book is probably not a fantasy novel hence his rejection of all the mythology JOD mentions. Am I wrong?

1/28/2007 7:35:36 PM

Old Viking

Poor Steve didn't know that the doctrines you cite are scientific.

1/28/2007 8:47:15 PM

cheapthrills

Reading? I just look at the pictures and make up my own story!

1/28/2007 9:15:22 PM

Sykotik489

I've read Paul Bunyan, and it said that the Grand Canyon was created by him and Babe westling. I don't believe it either.

That's awfully closeminded of you.

1/28/2007 11:22:25 PM

CrowdingHell

You know, I was annoyed when my irony meter blew up the other day. Now I'm just glad I didn't rush right out to replace it.

1/29/2007 12:47:44 AM

The Jamo

Yes, because as we all know, the only \"true science\" [tm] can be found in the bible. [/sarcasm]

1/29/2007 1:09:32 AM

MK

It's been a bad week for the irony meter industry. Just when they thought they were finally getting things under control after the massive \"Group Mirror-Polishing Project\" disaster, along comes James O'Drip with his roadside bomb.

1/29/2007 3:34:21 AM

Berny

If I had this book dirtying up my library...

You have a library? I got the impression, from the list of authors you gave, that all you have is a load of industrial grade toilet paper.
As for knowing nothing of true science, nothing contained in the Bible is remotely linked to science.
Mythology, yes. Science, no.

1/29/2007 3:40:58 AM

Redhunter

Having a bible doesn't constitute a \"library\", even if you do have the complete \"Highlights\" collection and a Goofus and Gallant cardboard cut-out.

1/29/2007 6:34:35 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Oh, the hypocrasy!

1/29/2007 8:28:28 AM

Julian

I read this, and once my mind had finished asploding, I thought I'd pop in and read all the irony comments!

1/29/2007 9:06:58 AM

Matilde

He hasn´t read all those guys for the same reason I don´t read Danielle Steel or Barbara Carlan for my English class seminars. Everybody thinks they are great, but for people like me they are bullshit.

1/29/2007 12:42:57 PM

Blue Lithium

@ Berny...His library is just full of multiple copies of the KJV...

1/29/2007 1:45:53 PM

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