If there were overwhelming historical or Scientific evidence of Jesus existence, of what value would our faith be? The lack of evidence is by God's design.
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Nope, I'm still not convinced. All of this "God set it up this way to play headgames with us" stuff does is further convince me that there is no such being. Anyway, how does this match up to a God who was willing to come down to earth and wander around among us for 33 years? That god of yours is nothing if not consistant, huh?
Overwhelming historical or Scientific evidence of Jesus existence, would be of value to you because you would no longer appear to be such an ignorant shithead. Also, it would really improve the effectiveness of your evangelism.
If God exists and if God wants everyone to be saved, his providing no of evidence for his existence is a piss-poor design and you should be ashamed to worship such a being.
@fuzon : And just where is this overwhelming proof of Jesus existence you speak of? Outside of the Bible, there is not one word or scrape of evidence that shows him to have ever existed. Of course, if you have such evidence, we would all be quite interested to see it.
Brian: "I'm not the Messiah, HONESTLY!"
Fanatical Woman: "Only the true Messiah denies HIs divinity!"
Brian (frustrated): Well, what sort of chance does that give me? Alright...I AM the Messiah!"
Crowd: "He is! He is the Messiah!"
Brian: *headdesk*
Adam, Eve, Abraham, Jacob, various prophets, Saul, David, Solomon, various other kings and even foreign kings (from Jewish perspective). Were all of those doomed because they supposedly knew beyond a doubt that God existed? I mean, they talked to the guy.
In that case, the raison d'etre of many, many people, would be useless. Bear in mind that lots of atrocities have been made in his name. And in those cases, history won´t forgive. And that will be the real Hell.
“Adam, Eve, Abraham, Jacob, various prophets, Saul, David, Solomon
” Funny, I though those people predated Jesus--how could they have met and talked to him before he was born?
Now explain why he appeared in person to preach the sermon on the mount and tell his parables and feed 5,000 people - not to mention his weddings, parties, anything tricks for the Canaanites.
Shouldn't he just have written it all down on a different continent decades or centuries after his death... Oh wait!
This was always my biggest problem. Sure, I understand 'faith', but how can you have faith in something that is unprovable? How is the Holy Bible different from the Koran? they both offer stories without proof. How can a christian, muslim, whoever, KNOW that they are worshipping the "Right God"?
Answer: THEY CAN'T!
So it begs the question: What do you have that would move me to believe your particular religion?
Answer: Still waiting...
Embarrassing confession: Long, long ago, when I attempted to be a christian, I actually thought that maybe the bible was purposely written to be confusing, contradictory, and irrational because god wanted us to believe in impossible things. Then, I grew out of elementary school and came to realize that any deity that would prefer to be worshipped by close-minded idiots was not something I'd want to be associated with.
"The lack of evidence is by God's design"
No, the lack of evidence is by design of my neighbor's superintelligent garden gnomes, who are really the vanguard of a race of beings far beyond our understanding. No, I have no proof because they designed everything so there would be no proof! Because the are superintelligent! So the lack of proof proves I'm right. So there.
I don't need any evidence, for evidence evokes proof, and proof denies faith and faith is what God bases himself on.
But there IS evidence!
There are good records of man called Jesus Christ who existed...
We have proof Jesus exists!
"Oh dear." says God, and vanishes in a puff logic.
I fear I'm about to be killed on a zebra crossing...
Oh yes, God is really just a cunty bitch that purposely hid all of the evidence of his existence and covered his tracks to fuck with people. Not exactly someone who should be worshiped, he sounds more like a 6 year old boy that hides his mother's car keys just to giver her a hard time.
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Confused?
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