Tiny Bulcher

JH86: Your case would go better if you could clear up the confusion between the terms Universe, Galaxy, and Solar System: the latter two are subsets of the first, and it is only the last that the Sun is the centre of.

RichardT: Consider that the Bible often speaks in terms of allegory and metaphor. Consider then that the Earth might be thought of in the Bible as the figurative centre of the Universe, rather than the physical one.

1/31/2007 9:15:13 AM

Skywolf

I think sometimes we do need to keep in mind Jacob's point that not all Christians are fundies. I know everyone knows that, but sometimes cheap shots end up being taken at the religion as a whole, and not just the fundie side of it.

Personally, I don't believe Christianity has all the answers. I don't know if it even has any of them. But I have no problem with people who believe it does, and incorporate that belief into their modern lives without insisting that everyone else do the same. But fundamentalists who continually argue that everything human beings have observed over centuries about our universe is wrong, or of the Devil, anger me like little else and make themselves and their entire religion look utterly stupid.

Why this constant need to insist that humans aren't capable of using the brains that God supposedly gave them in order to observe and learn about their own universe outside of a millenia-old book of ancient myths? Of course people of Biblical times thought Earth was the centre of the universe. Naturally, that ideal would have been incorporated into ancient texts. But we know now, without a shadow of a doubt, that this is not the case! We've grown up - we've gained knowledge and experience and learned amazing things about our incredible universe - and fundmentalists want to take us all back thousands of years into a world of ignorance? Why?!? What is so wrong about accepting the fact that we've learned things about the world God supposedly gave us? If you believe that, why would you not want to believe he intended for us to explore and expand our knowledge and be even more awe-inspired by the universe he made?

1/31/2007 6:46:06 PM

yarps

Based on JH86's comments here, I'd encourage people to rate down his posts. They're evidence of honest mistakes in terminology, not fundyism, IMNSHO.

1/31/2007 7:00:06 PM

Glazius

...well, uh, aren't both the earth and the sun the centers of the universe?

Given that the universe is quite possibly infinite in all directions or a closed four-spatial object, from a three-dimensional perspective every point is \"the center of the universe\".

--GF

2/1/2007 9:21:11 PM

tempest1380

What fucking century are YOU still in, JH?

2/19/2007 10:20:04 PM

v200

I still can't believe some people think that the Earth is the center of the universe.

7/28/2011 10:30:37 AM