Nelson Alonso #fundie

Nelson Alonso #fundie arn.org

I agree that ID has an unfair advantage, but this is simply because the evidence is in it's favor, for example, we don't rely on "unknown steps" or "future theories" as evidence for our theory. We rely on the data.

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old comment by Hawker Hurricane

Intelligent Design in 3 parts...
1. We don't know how *that* happened. 2. We'll never know how *that* happened. 3. Therefore, God did *that*. The problems... 1. We don't know if this is true. 2. This is almost certainly untrue. 3. This is a 'God of the Gaps' arguement. We're saying here 'anything we don't know was done by God'. The problem with this arguement is that as we learn more things, the gaps get smaller, and God disappears. Take, for example, thunder. At one time, we didn't know what caused thunder. So we had Thor, God of Thunder. Now we do know what causes thunder, and Thor is a comic book character. Keep up the God of the Gaps arguement, and Yahweh will join Thor in The Avengers comics...

old comment by HypnoToad

Nelson, buddy. If you're gonna quote-mine legitimate scientists, I'd stay away from Dawkins. That's too easy to refute. Just go with some unheard-of biologist in Missouri who mispoke at a conference or something.
Anyway, Dawkins has said the life appears to be designed, but that is merely our perception of how adapted most organisms are to their environment. He seems to prefer evidence over superstition, and thus would never, ever support any form of creationism. Pretty much every well-read atheist knows this, so you just end up looking like a goober when you misquote him. You are indeed a fundie, for you have chosen the path of ignorance and made vocal your ill-concieved notions, putting yourself square in our sights. Face it padre, there is not one shred of evidence to support ID, no matter how much you close your eyes, put your hands over your ears, and wish it was otherwise. But relax kid, you're only a low 3 at the moment, so there's a little hope for you yet. We'll just have to see what happens when someone submits what you've written on this board... <geek>Thor is the Norse god of thunder, present in a lot of popular media, most notably Marvel Comics, in which he was a member of the Avengers, a super hero team led by Captain America and Iron Man (depending whether or not Tony was on the wagon that day) until Ragnarok (Norse Armageddon) where he possible died, and at least dissapeared, until that dick Richard Reed cloned him, creating a monster which ultimately killed Goliath.</geek>

old comment by QuickFlick

"I agree that ID has an unfair advantage"
That's right, it does. They're called lies. "but this is simply because the evidence is in it's favor" Show one that can be proven and agreed upon by any scientist that doesn't prostitute themselves in the name of ID. "we don't rely on "unknown steps" or "future theories" as evidence for our theory." You really need to read something other than the propaganda that's been shoved down your throat. Science being open to change and improvement on theories is actually a good thing. It allows us to have computers and vaccines and properly cooked food and turbine wind power and hair gel and all sorts of fun things. ID does not allow for any sort of change because to do that would move the goalposts, and we can't have that, now can we? "We rely on the data" Oh that pesky data must be around here somewhere. See above. And Nelson, your comment is fundie because you are buying the line they are feeding you hook, line and sinker. Try reading out of the box for a change, maybe a book on critical thinking for a start.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"we don't rely on "unknown steps" or "future theories" as evidence for our theory. We rely on the data."

And what data would that be...?:

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A magic sky fairy just 'poofing' a universe, world & animal life on it, but apparently limiting his 'Omnipotence' when it came to not doing exactly the same for the first humans?! A talking snake? Yeah, that alone not only makes 'Intelligent Design' soooooo credible, it completely annihilates Evolution, yessiree! [/hyper-sarcasm]

...meanwhile, the 'disadvantaged' China - because it doesn't allow religion in it's educational system - are churning out from it's Atheist 'Indoctrination factories', a.k.a. schools, colleges & universities, experts in quantum mechanics, astrophysics, biochemistry, genetics, medicine, and Cyberwarfare.

Still, I'm suuuuure just praying will act as the perfect Firewall for your DoD/CIA/NSA's supercomputers; no equally educated knowledge base in the US required in countering such methods of compromising your country's security, nay, military, nosiree! [/hyper-sarcasm II]

And all because you're too scared of admitting that if one part of your precious 'Word of God' is proven to be lies, the rest of what makes up your entire 'beliefs' & thus your mindset will be destroyed. Like I say: Atheist China. Cyberattacks. You don't learn how to do that from reading a book of fairytales: the Bible. Priorities, Nellie, Priorities.

Nelson Alonso #fundie arn.org

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