Of course, I do realize that argueing with idolaters is absolutely futile, since the reason they don't believe is not for lack of proof, but for the wickedness of their hearts. As Paul said, they are brute animals without reason or logic. And discussion with them is strongly discouraged. Just like the evolution baboons, who think their father is a monkey... showing the quackery of evolution through thousands of proofs won't make a dent in their stupidly held beliefs. They believe in evolution not because it's true, but because it's the ONLY alternative to creation. And despite the overwheling evidence against it, and despite the everwhelming evidence supporting creation, they will believe the lie. They'd reather believe the lies than the truth.