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I think the world they [atheists and liberals] envision can probably be put into words, as in the book 1984. If you haven't read the book, I suggest you do so. It will open up your eyes to what the future holds for us if the true Christian religion is forever banished from this planet.

learboy, POD Warrior Forum 16 Comments [1/1/2003 12:00:00 ]
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#468525
Mr Blur

Ah, the irony!

It would be a restrictive fundamentalist theocracy which would be more likely to result in the world of 1984.

4/17/2008 6:45:50 PM
#471925
Canadiest

Don't recommend something you don't understand!

4/20/2008 4:51:00 PM
#471929
Brian X

I don't believe Orwell ever really got around to discussing religion. How could he... Oceania was just one gigantic Big Brother personality cult... it was religion.

4/20/2008 4:55:05 PM
#471931
Canadiest

Big Brother, the Dark Lords, the Wizard of Oz and the Mind/Dream Police are all metaphors for religion. Our concept of unreasonable insane rulers all comes from Kings and Churches.

4/20/2008 4:56:52 PM
#472014
Tomby Stone

There's NO way this kid has read a single chapter of 1984. Surely even the dumbest fundie would recognise the similarities in descriptions of constant surveillance and repressed sexual impulses carefully controlled and released as anger on targets chosen by the rulers. Aaaah, what's the point ??

4/20/2008 6:39:33 PM
#479276
aaa

Thought crime!

4/27/2008 7:54:47 PM
#657434
BrendanJD

Because Goldstein wasn't vilified during the Two Minutes Hate like how Xtians vilify everything they don't like, whether it's biblical law or not.

O wait...

8/28/2008 8:02:28 PM
#657485
cuthberttt

And if you like 1984, you'll love Fahrenheit 451. It will really open your eyes as to why books need to be burned...

...Swing and a miss.

8/28/2008 9:04:57 PM
#657540
Darth Vader... For Freedom

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure (like 99% sure) that Orwell was an atheist.

8/28/2008 9:27:32 PM
#657545
Darth Vader... For Freedom

@Cuthbertt, Fahrenheit 451 does have Christian undertones, actually. I would say that it is much more pro-Christian than 1984 is.

8/28/2008 9:28:52 PM
#657607
GigaGuess

Wow. Just...wow. You guys are the ones advocating censorship of anything that doesn't fit within your ultra-puritanical world view, even going so far as to sexual acts outside of married-man-on-top-missionary sex be illegal. And WE'RE the ones that will usher in an age of oppression?!

8/28/2008 10:00:00 PM
#657619
cuthberttt

@Darth: I agree it is, but I was merely using it to illustrate just how far the point of 1984 was missed. 1984 is to endorsing religion as Fahrenheit 451 is to endorsing illiteracy. And I'm pretty sure you're right about Orwell. 99% sure though, so we could both be wrong.

8/28/2008 10:04:47 PM
#657652
Neserit

Um....no.
It's the other way around, Mr. Smarty-Pants!

8/28/2008 10:20:45 PM
#1037923
EyeJest

It will open up your eyes to what the future holds for us if the true Christian religion is forever banished from this planet.

Funny, I see it as the other way around. And it would appear others agree with me.

10/17/2009 5:14:19 PM
#1067150
mkincub

It is often thought that the "big brother" persona in 1984 was a parody of God, and the party was a parody of the clergy of england.

12/6/2009 9:20:05 PM
#1190056
The Duelist

Fahrenheit 451 was also pro-Buddhist, so I guess Ray Bradbury is a pretty open-minded person.

8/9/2010 1:15:10 PM
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