Guys, liberals are desperately afraid of homeschooling. They know that it is on the rise and that scares the sugar out of them.
I heard a Maine talk show some time ago. It's one of those bi-colored arrangements: you have a red commie on one side, and an undetermined washed-out pastel color as the "conservative" counterpart.
Anyway, they were interviewing this cow from NEA, who lowed that parents who homeschooled their kids deprived them of "that very important thing: interaction with their peers, which was so important to form their social skills."
I grabbed the phone and when I got through, I asked them if by "forming their social skills" the NEA cow meant drug use and teenage pregnancy.
It went down like battery acid, I need not tell you. But I was rather proud of myself.
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"Liberals are desperately afraid of homeschooling" - come on, retard, that's just stupid. If you want to insulate your kids from their world then fine, teach them whatever takes your fancy because it's got nothing to do with me, but don't get on your high horse and act like what you're doing is actual teaching.
So you do not believe you have the skills to be a good enough parent to prevent your child from getting pregnant or using drugs as a child? You much rather shelter them from that until you one day push them out into the world with none of the social experience that others have gained? Therefore, not only making them misfits, but also making semi-likely to want to try drugs since nobody had any cause to spend their early years trying to mold them into responsible young adults who have formulated their own opinion on drugs with your help.
I hate to break it to you, but it's the children with bad parents who are not around emotionally or physically who tend to have those problems. Obviously you are proving you are better then them by being so afraid that you will turn out to be like them, that you want to keep your child isolated from their basic social needs. Good job.
I'm not a liberal and I'm scared shitless of homeschooling! We are going to need free-thinking people with technical and scientific knowledge in the next few years, not trained automatons with religious tenets and anti-science platitudes trying to create a new and better future with "Dark Ages" ideas and beliefs.PS Maggie you fundies are the ones trying to create more teenage pregnancies with your attempts to gut effective sex-education programs with these worthless abstinence-only courses that kids laugh at!
Guys, liberals are desperately afraid of homeschooling Not all homeschooling, mind you, just the fundie kind.
You know: if I had kids (or were a foster parent) I'd home-school if just to make sure that my kid learned real science and real history and real literature instead of the "getting extra sleep may help prevent AIDS" and "our Founding Fathers were evangelical Christians" and "we're not going to read Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn or Leaves of Grass because they're too 'controversial'" kind of crap which passes for "education" in our schools today.
My kids would learn about the rise of labor unions in the United States and Europe and why they were (and still are) necessary; they would learn the history of U.S. government actions (including spying) on its own citizens since the early 1800s; and my kids would learn how to engage in social disobedience when necessary and how to engage in effective contact with our elected representatives to actually get things done.
Is that what you mean by "home schooling", Maggie_T? Or is what you mean by "home schooling" christofascist social, religious and political indoctrination?
My sister-in-law is one of the most liberal people I've ever met. She's one of those "earth mother" types who feeds her kids only organic foods, doesn't believe in spanking, lets her two year old son sleep in her bed on demand, and is doing her best to raise her children to be atheists. And she homeschools.
To be honest, the value of teaching social skills by cramming a bunch of kids all the same age together in a social pressure cooker for several hours a day is overrated. The real world isn't like that. Homeschool groups that bring adults and kids of various ages together for activities probably do a better job of socialization.
Not that that has anything to do with fundies.
How does having no prior experience of social contact with other human beings decrease the odds of drug, pregnancy and other social problems when you finally, inevitably do end up setting foot out of your front door and making contact?
Yes, yes, let's shelter our children from the real world as long as they're in school. Someday they're going to have to leave, and when they do, they're going absolutely bonkers on you since they never developed coping skills or self-control.
If NEA has to do with homosexuality and tolerance, in which way are they going to get girls pregnant?, moreover, are actually homeschoolers afraid of the guy who said that Americans won Vietnam, and triumphally said that it was so because his mom said so and he was unable to find North Vietnam in the map?, or the girl who was proud of MAKING COOKIES, the apparently only skill her friends hadn´t acquired?
I'm not a liberal and I'm scared shitless of homeschooling! We are going to need free-thinking people with technical and scientific knowledge in the next few years, not trained automatons with religious tenets and anti-science platitudes trying to create a new and better future with "Dark Ages" ideas and beliefs. Thank you.
You attack someone's questioning of your child's social skills by being beligerant, surly and acerbic?
Yeah, you really proved a point there, your opponants point.
Right, because only children in blue states have problems with teen pregnancy and drug use. :roll eyes:
And thank you, I suppose, for once again proving to me that conservatives are all paranoid bigots who can only use worse-case scenarios to make their point. You made me pat myselff on the back, once again, for not being one.
You know, it's funny...I went to public school K-12, and I still learned more outside of school from my secular parents and reading & studying on my own. So I don't know what there is to be afraid of.
At least I wasn't homeschooled by Christian crypto-fascist know-nothings like yourself.
"Guys, liberals are desperately afraid of homeschooling"
Yes, because the children who are being sequestered and brainwashed by their fundamentalist parents will grow up some day. There are enough ignorant adults in this country already.
Liberals aren't afraid of homeschooling. They think it does a disservice to kids for a variety of reasons--one being the interaction with peers that you mentioned, another being that it's so often used as a means to inundating a child with backwards fundie religion instead of science. It's because of people like you that many people dislike homeschooling and are unable to see that there are some kids who just cannot get along in public schools through no fault of their own. So on behalf of all the bullied and harassed children who may lose their chance to be educated in peace and safety in their own homes, may I say, fuck you very much Maggie. How did YOU like that battery acid?
"liberals are desperately afraid of homeschooling. They know that it is on the rise and that scares the sugar out of them."
Speaking as someone who went to standard State Primary, Secondary, and Comprehensive schools, I say it's done me the world of good. It's what made me into the intelligent, self-thinking Atheist I am today.
And that's what scares the shit out of them.
But you know what's REALLY making the Conservatives in America shit their entire digestive tracts? Obama's desire to create a Universal Healthcare system. They believe it'll result in the end of the world for right-wingers over there.
Speaking as someone who lives in a country which has had the National Health Service since the late 1940s, it hasn't done us any harm. In fact, it's done me a power of good (and I don't have the scars to prove it; that's how good the surgeons were!). An NHS that was devised & planned (along with our comprehensive welfare state, at the same time) by a Conservative .
Wrap your little Conservative minds round that concept.
Stop giving home-schooling a bad name.
Some of the smartest people that I know were home-schooled through the equivalent of high school, and then finished college five to eight years ahead of average.
Of course, all of their parents are highly educated and several are college professors. They are _qualified_ to teach their kids.
Stupid, and proud of it.
Yep, she's fundie.
Why would liberals be afraid of homeschooling? If the person handling the homeschooling has some education in educating and a natural ability to impart knowledge to others, it might work fine. The political view has very little to do with it.
And why do you then skip over to a show with communists? You do know that liberals and communists are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, right?
If you don't even know what is normally meant with "forming their social skills," I don't think you should homeschool your kids.
Kids who haven't formed their social skills are much easier pray for drugsellers and seducers.
Liberals want a society of people that are educated.
I grabbed the phone and when I got through, I asked them if by "forming their social skills" the NEA cow meant drug use and teenage pregnancy.
You must hate the Bible Belt, those things are rampant there
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