So you say that there is no way that being a homosexual(or should I say sodomite)is a choice. Well gee than if that theory is true, then that would mean that a terrorist didn't choose to become a terrorist, he or she was born that way.(no they werent born that way but they were raised that way) I have question- If a doctor told you that your child was going to be born a criminal-would you believe him? What is this world comming to. Poeple always want something else or someone else to blame instead of dealing with their choices. You can choose to be a sodomite or you can choose not to. You can choose to believe in God or you can choose not to. You can choose to have kids or you can choose not to. It is a choice. Any person who actually believes that they are a born sodomite or whatever is seriously blind. For all people who are into science-God created all things, humans, the universe, animals so on and so forth. In that he also created science-it is not his fault that people are either too stupid to understand it, or they just want to take something and twist it to condone their behavior. But then again this is just the sick and twisted world we live in and thankfully it will eventually come to an end.
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Fine then. You choose to be a "Sodomite", body and mind , for a week and I'll go straight for the rest of my life. Not only would you be proving yourself right, but you would be "saving" me, too.
Still, you couldn't do it, because while the "body" part is easy, your mind is simply either wired that way or it isn't.
or should I say sodomite
No, you shouldn't. It's childish, and inaccurate, and it doesn't do anything but make you look like an even big jerkoff than you already are. And you really don't need any help in that department.
Well gee than if that theory is true, then that would mean that a terrorist didn't choose to become a terrorist
No, it goddamn doesn't. There's no way you can compare a sexual orientation to wilful acts of terrorism. Even if being gay was a choice, which it's not, it doesn't do any harm to anybody.
You can choose to be a sodomite or you can choose not to.
Wrong. I'll never understand how anybody can believe this, either. Nobody can choose to be attracted to one sex or the other, it's something that's built in.
But then again this is just the sick and twisted world we live in and thankfully it will eventually come to an end.
No, what's sick and twisted is your desire to see it end. You all go on about what a wonderful thing it will be to see most of the world get tortured by your "loving" god, and it's one of the most perverse concepts I've ever come across.
You're not worth it, but at least you're consistent in your (wrong) comparisons to homosexuality, but you should have tried to compare it with more destructive behaviors. Having children and not believing in god are attractive propositions to a lot of people here.
Well gee than if that theory is true, then that would mean that a terrorist didn't choose to become a terrorist, he or she was born that way. Non-sequitur . Homosexuality and killing are two different behaviours.
(no they werent born that way but they were raised that way) Many people have in-born tendencies to disregard morals. Can't psychopathy be in-born?
I have question- If a doctor told you that your child was going to be born a criminal-would you believe him? So basically, the point here is that if bad thing a isn't in-born, bad thing b can't be either? Nonsensical.
People always want something else or someone else to blame instead of dealing with their choices. Not even remotely true. A lot of us have the ability to own up for what we do, in a lot of cases.
You can choose to be a sodomite or you can choose not to. But of course. The desire to be a "sodimite" in the first place , though, is what is being questioned here.
The rest of the post is nonsensical name-calling and stupid implications, and thus will be disregarded
There's no choice involved at all. No one wakes up one morning and says, "From this time on I choose to be a member of the most hated and despised minority on the planet." People are gay because they were born as such. Get used to the fact that human nature is far more complicated than the simplistic black and white fantasyland world that pathetic fundamentalists live in.
If a doctor told you that your child was going to be born a criminal-would you believe him?
The genomes that cause criminal behavior have been found. A doctor can tell you if your child has a high risk of being a criminal.
I can't wait till we find the fundie genes.
As all of you are my witnesses, I hereby choose to be 6'4", blond, and athletically gifted. When does the magic kick in, or does it apply only to sexual orientation?
I'm with Dr. Whom. I, too, choose to be 6'4", blond and athletically gifted, and also 45 years younger. Wait ... I feel funny ... shit, it was just heartburn.
One of the greatest things I have experienced in the military was the time when an E-3 told me how much of a sinner I was and how all of us atheist are gonna burn and my response was ( as an E-4) "Airman, the tools need to be inventoried, as well as our spare parts, the maintence bay needs to be cleaned, there is trash around our radars and the trash around to office needs to be taken out...and I'm holding YOU responisble for all this to be taken care off before close of business. His response...Yes sir. God damn I miss the military.
So you say that there is no way that being a homosexual (or should I say sodomite) is a choice. Well gee than if that theory is true, then that would mean that a terrorist didn't choose to become a terrorist, he or she was born that way.
That's stupid. The analogy just assumes what it's trying to prove: that homosexuality is a choice. Homosexuality is not a choice. Being a terrorist is. The two have nothing to do with each other.
no they weren't born that way but they were raised that way
Raised how? Even when kids are raised by gays they still come out straight just as often as kids raised by straights. Even when an infant boy was given a sex change and dosed with female hormones, he still ended up attracted to women. Where is Icebabe getting this nonsense? If being gay is a choice, why does that choice get made more often by men with a gay uncle or cousin on their mother's side, even when they have no contact with him?
... he also created science - it is not his fault that people are either too stupid to understand it ...
Icebabe is proof. Icebabe just invents stuff without any attempt to learn or respond to the science. What science shows being gay is a choice?
Can someone choose if they are male or female? Can someone choose if they are born with red hair or green eyes?
Man, it's like fundies don't know how to enjoy life, or take joy in the world. They just want it to end.
Can you choose to be a m boy or girl? Can you choose your own name? Can you choose your rival's name? Can you choose water, grass, or fire starter?
I had a point here and lost it.
So, is being Autistic a choice? I've had a baptist preacher tell me that I wasn't really Autistic, because Autism isn't real, it's just an excuse. DIAF, fuckhead.
No, it wouldn't mean anything of the sort. Also, being homosexual harms no-one in and of itself, while being a terrorist harms many innocents. In short; mind your own business! And no, you should NOT say sodomite.
If you really think you can choose what sexual orientation to have, chances are that you're bisexual, dearie.
You can choose to be tall or you can choose not to be; deprive yourself of nutrition during your development years and you will not grow as tall as you would otherwise have done.
You're the only one trying to twist things here, stupid.
Even if being gay would be a choice*, it still would not be the same as being a terrorist. You would first have to prove that being gay would be harmful to anybody before you could make that analogy.
*I do not believe that it is a choice, based on the sole fact that I myself didn’t choose to be straight and I would not be able to be attracted to another man if I tried, so I assume that no one else is able to choose their sexual orientation. But as I said, it does not matter if it is a choice or not.
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