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You avoided my question. I asked you what evidence do you have that the Gospels are FALSE! The burden of proof is on YOU to prove the Gospels to be false. Christians don't have to PROVE anything.

joelch2, Rapture Ready 20 Comments [2/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Tom S. Fox

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2/24/2008 1:54:07 PM

TerriblyAmused

Ignorant and proud...
Who am I to screw with his already-twisted perception of the world around him?

2/24/2008 1:54:57 PM

canadiest

The mistakes at jesus' tomb in different chapters, two different ends for Judas,etc,etc,

They mean nothing so you won't accept reality...no surprize

2/24/2008 2:39:53 PM

Freboy

You're not familiar with science I see.

2/24/2008 3:01:04 PM

freako104

Well they do contradict each other, they are incomplete (where is Gospel of Phillip? Judas? Mary? Gnostic Gospels?)

2/24/2008 3:46:34 PM

Mog

NO.

You're the one telling everyone that what is observable through science is false and that your invisible sky daddy exists. YOU have to prove that.

But even so, it really isn't hard to prove that at least some of the Gospels are false - there are so many contradictions, they can't all be true. Which sort of kills your "perfect literally true Bible" thing.

3/11/2008 1:05:50 PM

ladysparkles

Moses came down from a mountain delievering a direct message of god...but dont recall the story where he handed down the new testament. Kinda reminds me how mormons got there special book,dum dum dum dum...

3/11/2008 1:09:49 PM

Feminazi

If you want people to belive you you have to provide some proof.

3/15/2008 3:57:38 AM

anti-nonsense

Burden of Proof Does Not Work That Way!

3/15/2008 4:03:24 AM

MysticalChicken

Alright, answer me this: Who was there (besides god) during the first five days of the Biblical creation? Humans weren't created until day 6 (I think), so how do they know what happened on days 1-5? Did god toss down a stone tablet that said "To any humans that find this: This is what happened during the first five days of creation, before you people came into the picture"?

3/15/2008 4:04:54 AM

Canadiest

yeah. you do

You can't prove a negative.

So it is up to those that assert something exists to give proof, No Christian's ever achieved Proof. If something does exist it is easier to prove then something that does'nt exist.t

You can never prove something that does NOT exist...Wait for it....does or does not exist.

I don't think that's hard logic

I think that is "I'm awake"

3/15/2008 5:20:03 AM

Canadiest

and as many have pointed out before................

Leprecauns
Unicorns (in the Bible)
Elves
Trolls
Honest Politicians
Benevolant Christians
Freethinking fundies
Militant Canadians
Muslim Feminists
Centaurs
Superheroes
Dragons ( In the Bible)
Freakin' great impossible extinction survivor vessels
Creation Scientist (that's a joke no one believes in them)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Bigfoot
Witches
Demons (Shit, Forgot they believe in them)

3/15/2008 5:55:57 AM

apYrs

of course the Xians don't need to prove anything, but they have no right then to say that their beliefs are true

3/15/2008 10:21:08 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Got an F in logic again?

3/15/2008 2:32:19 PM

Snafui

The genealogies of Jesus are fake and interpolated.

Start there and get back to me.

Hint: it cannot be Mary's, period.

3/15/2008 4:14:19 PM

Jake Steel

Then why do you keep trying?

3/15/2008 8:42:49 PM

Canadiest

Something that is true is must easier to prove than not. The contradictionin the Bible prove that some of it HAS to be wrong.

3/18/2008 2:35:16 PM

David B.

Canadiest wrote: "So it is up to those that assert something exists to give proof"

Close, it's up to those who assert either view to prove it. If they don't its just a 'bare assertion'. Whether it's a positive or negative statement is irrelevant (except to the difficulty of the task), arguing that something is true just because you said so isn't logic.

If someone say the gospels are false, they have to prove it, just as if someone says the gospels are true, they have to prove that too.

But we can demonstrate that the bible is not infallible by noting the inconsistencies between books of the OT (priests can't marry widows (Leviticus), but they can marry widows (Elijah)) or the synoptic gospels (Judas gave the money back, then bought a field with it, hung himself, then fell over and burst, etc.). And if it is not infallible, then its direct authorship by divine inspiration is questionable (why would God get things wrong?) and its literal truth untenable.

Not that this settles God's hash one way or the other, since infinities screw over logic just as surely as they put most of mathematics out of whack, but the OP was about the gospels. These are perfectly amenable to study.

3/18/2008 3:13:06 PM

Brenz

Not if you want them taught in schools.

3/18/2008 4:50:35 PM

Saccharissa

Evidence that the Gospels are, at the very least, inaccurate is the fact that they contradict each other.
Don't believe me? Then why don't you take the Easter Challenge? If you succeed, I will never bother you again.

And where do you get the idea that Christians don't have to prove anything? You have to abide by the same rules of debate that we all do.

3/18/2008 8:30:05 PM
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