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If the resurrection was false, the Jews and the Romans would have proved it 1970 years ago (and there would be records to that affect). No records exist, because the resurrection happened.

joelch2, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [2/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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OK lets take a deep breath and go with the facts...

1. There's no records that Christ ever existed.
2. The only ones that showed his crucifixion were proven to be forgeries.
3. None of the events in the New Testament or \"Gospels\" were corroborated by historians and writers of the time.

So you're saying the fact that there's no records of Jesus' non-resurrection, just as there's no records of Jesus ressurection, proves it must've happened, rather than the sane option of - \"No it didn't\".

8/24/2006 7:07:28 AM

They call me V

" Day 45: Dear diary, we killed a guy today, he didn't rise from death. Day 46: Dear diary, we killed three guys today, neither of them rose from death. Day 47: Killed one guy and a dog today. The guy appeared to rise from death, but turns out he wasn't quite gone in the first place. Day 48: We fixed the embarrasing mistake from yesterday. Day 49: Day off, killed some time, it did not rise from death."

Yeah... 'cause that totally happened. At any rate... we all know that the bible is perfect proof... yeah.

4/8/2008 11:51:09 PM

Brian X

Thaaaaaaat really doesn't make sense.

4/8/2008 11:53:31 PM


Because someone staying dead at that point of time was so extraordinary.

4/9/2008 12:10:04 AM


Do you think Texas checks to see if any of the people they executed rose from the dead when they weren't looking? Of course not.

4/9/2008 12:10:26 AM


Well, I didn't write about the time Jake Gyllenhaal showed up at my door, so it must have happened!

4/9/2008 12:28:06 AM

Darwin's Lil Girl

My high school teachers drum a lesson into our heads all fundies must make note of.


4/9/2008 1:10:08 AM


No, I get it. I really do. In their world, lack-of-evidence IS proof. That's the proof they have for their god, and now it seems that's the proof for the resurrection as well.

They aren't taught to believe in something in SPITE of lack of evidence, but BECAUSE of lack of evidence.

Think of the scams we could run on them! If only I had their lack of morals, I could be rich! rich I tells ya....

6/30/2008 9:06:04 PM


Can't we say the same for Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, Champ, etc.? I think I'll invent my own. There is a ghost ship in Boston Harbor, to rival the Flying Dutchman. If it doesn't exist, someone would have proved it and documented it. Since nobody has proved Boston Harbor isn't haunted by Nix's Mate, et al., Boston Harbor is haunted.

6/30/2008 9:48:35 PM


I understand what Joelch is saying. All the Romans and Jews needed to do to discredit Christianity was to produce the body of Christ.

Two questions....

1) Assuming Jesus really died, where did his body go?

2) If Jesus didn't really die, why didn't Pontius Pilate or the other high-ranking figures named in the gospel accounts not defend themselves from the charges of having executed the man?

6/30/2008 10:12:18 PM


No news at all is very good news, eh?

When did they start reporting non-resurrections in official records? Something like a dead man coming to life, that would seem noteworthy all around. Nothing there either.

6/30/2008 10:25:00 PM


Forget Jesus, how's Francisco Franco?

6/30/2008 10:59:44 PM


Or maybe the authorities of the day didn't feel the need to create a historical record saying "This dude didn't come back as a zombie." for every Tom, Dick and Ishmael who died under their governance.

6/30/2008 11:01:22 PM


Sorry Gjervan, but this just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

7/1/2008 6:31:08 AM


982 KI and as funny as hell.

7/1/2008 6:54:53 AM


No records exist of the big bang either - proving that happened too!

7/13/2008 10:11:27 PM

Allegory for Jesus

Ahh, the ol' "prove that's it NOT true" proof. Works everytime [you want to believe something without evidence].

7/24/2010 7:41:56 AM

Philbert McAdamia

> If the resurrection was false, the Jews and the Romans would have proved it <

It's proven false as soon as you claim it, since it's impossible.

7/24/2010 7:54:10 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Didn't do well in elementary logic, did you?

7/24/2010 8:02:01 AM


Yeah, Again: Prove something didn't happen.

Here's how the goalpost thing works, you have to get it through them, not move them. In every game the goalposts stay in place.

All we ask is you score once under the rules and we'll take the arrogance as earned (once)

7/25/2010 7:42:25 AM

No records of disproving the existence of the God Pan. Therefore, it exists(try that with VIRTUALLY everything)

1/2/2011 2:08:59 PM


They....didn't record that a corpse stayed dead....because they had no reason to think that a corpse wouldn't stay dead....so the corpse must not have stayed dead...?

My head just 'sploded.

The Romans had to face the real world. And in the real world, people do not rise from the grave, except in your deistic fantasies and Altered Beast. If Jesus had risen from the dead, the Romans would have made a record of that, probably using the phrase "Holy Shiticus" to describe it. If there is no record that Jesus did not rise, it isn't because he did, but because nobody had any expectation that he would. If no record that he did rise exists, that's because HE DIDN'T!!!

3/3/2011 8:04:39 AM


A man was killed, his followers went to look for the corpse, his followers say there was no corpse. Non-followers accuse them of having stolen the corpse (Matthew)

possible explanations:

a) unlike every other man who ever died, this one rose back to life, ascended to heaven and was in fact the son of God

b)his followers stole the corpse and are shameless liars

Which is more likely?

1/1/2012 2:55:19 PM

YES ! the jews and Romans kept records of everything..

oh wait ..

everything that really happened, so no records might mean it never happened. No Jesus of Nazaretyh born in Bethlehem, no trial, no execution and no newsflash on the empty grave.

oh well..

1/1/2012 9:54:53 PM


There are no records that the big New York earthquake in 1947 didn't happen and didn't destroy Manhattan. Therefore, Manhattan was destroyed in 1947.

Why or how the flying fuck would there be records of something that DIDN'T happen?? Even by fundie standards this is moronic in the extreme.

Unless it's a troll having a bit of fun at Crapture Ready's expense. I must confess, I sometimes am a tiny little bit tempted to do it myself...

1/1/2012 10:15:25 PM

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