Thank God that the earth is NOT moving!!
The Biblical geocentric model of the universe is called WYSIWYG — What you see is what you get...True science is supposed to be based on observation. We see the array of stars wheeling around the earth approximately daily, and we motorize our telescopes to follow their steady motion. We see the sun rising and setting daily. We see the planets doing roughly the same thing, and we see the moon following them on a somewhat different schedule, all revolving around the earth as our eyes testify.
There is no justification at all from what we observe to arbitrarily assume the stars to be fixed and the earth rotating. The beauty of geocentricity is that what you see is what you get! It is a simple and readily understandable scenario for those who are willing to believe what their eyes tell them, and make the mental transition back to the instinctive reference frame of a stationary earth.
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The simple solution isn't always the right solution. I'd love to see you get your geocentric astronomy and physics in order so we can launch satelites into orbit to relay cell phone messages or television broadcasts to the "other side" of the planet. Or is the world also flat where you are from? It would fit in with your WYSIWYG system, the only problem is that it complicates placing satelites in such a manner that they are in a geostationary square above the US and manage to broadcast signales to, let's say, China.
And I almost forgot: stars do not stand still. Everything in the universe is moving relatively to each other.
Actually, you´re giving the argument for opposite. You see the stars every night BECAUSE THE EARTH HAS GIVEN A TOTAL TURN. Can you see stars in daylight?, nope, why?, because there´s night and day. And why there´s night and day?, BECAUSE THE EARTH ROTATES, SAME WITH SEASONS.
The beauty of geocentricity is that what you see is what you get!
Actually, witht he geocentric model, what you see is NOT what you get, which is why it was abandoned. People finally realized that continually kludging concentric spheres and epicycles into the model to explain observed astronomical movements didn't cut it.
This is all well and good, except for one little flaw in the logic. "We see the planets doing roughly the same thing."
Um...no we don't. It was the orbits of the planets that first clued canny observers in to the fact that the Earth orbits Sol. If the solar system was Geocentric, for example, the path thee planets can be empirically observed to take through the heavens would require them to make multiple, irregular loop-the-loops. However, when you plug the observed orbits of the planets into a Heliocentric model, you get nice, neat, predictable orbits.
The beauty of geocentricity is that what you see is what you get! It is a simple and readily understandable scenario for those who are willing to believe what their eyes tell them, and make the mental transition back to the instinctive reference frame of a stationary earth.
Oh yes. The geocentric model is so much simpler .
One of these days, Niall is going to lose some arbitrary assumptions, and feel vewy vewy stoopid.
Either that, or die ignorant.
WYSIWYG Universe, eh?
Well, when things move away from me, it looks like they're getting smaller. Therefore, everything shrinks as I move away from it and grows as I approach it.
This fits your logic, right?
The earth DOESN'T turn? But this can't be true! If it was, I would have read it on a restaurant placemat! Now I don't know what to think! Thank goodness that at least ONE brave man, undaunted by reason, logic and properly prescribed medications, has the guts to tell it like it is. Your Mom (and the stork who brought you) must be proud!
KISS-Keep It Simple, Stupid, or Occam's Razor disagrees. As the planets move eastward against the backround of the stars, they periodically go retrograde- move west- and then move east again. The old explaination was everything had its own sphere, and an epicycle to create the retrograde motion. This is hopelessly complicates, and the heliocentric universe, with Newton's laws is much neater than your archaic system.
Aha. Then the earth must be flat also. Since what you see is what you get. Tell me, how DID people sail to, say, america? Becouse that water will surely drop off in that horizon.
Maybe that's diffrent, or maybe God have put your european ancestored people there?
You are made of fail.
You might have been able to convince some people (well, morons) 100 years ago. But, um, we've sent people into space. They've actually looked at it (and filmed it) from up there.
It kinda ruins your theory.
Who is right?
The earth rotating around the sun, or.. the Universe around a center: the Earth?
I believe that God created the Universe and that the man is the image of God.
I believe that the man was created for God. That the center of all the creation is the man.
Which positioning is more useful: geocentric or heliocentric?
One is useful for astronomical calculations; the other for each one to open the eyes, to lift the arms and to praise God for the marvels that He put for the man.
In any way, I praise God . For all the Always, Amen.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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