[Re: What would you do if elected president?]
I'd wipe out the middle east and help Israel take it all over.
Iraq would be part of Israel.
Islam would be outlawed in America.
The borders would be closed.
And the IRS would be a thing of the past.
Gays would not have equal rights.
Poverty? I would re-enact the WPA.
No wealfare..you don't work, you starve.
Unless they were handicaped or had disabilities.
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I know this is a bit more of a minor point...but the WPA was in many ways a form of welfare.....actually it basically was welfare, because if you didn't work, more likely then not nothing happened. The program's goal was to keep people employed.
Ah, no, sorry. You wouldn't.
What you would do is wipe out the Middle East and help Israel take it all over. Then you would most likely be fighting against a Sino-Russian alliance pissed off about your snatching 80% of the world's remaining petrolium resources. This would draw in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Egypt. Turkey would get involved. The involvement of Pakistan would draw India into the conflict, and North Korea would take the opportunity to start getting all bratty again.
You would quickly realize that the USA barely has the troops to hold Iraq and Israel barely has the troops to hold Israel, let alone the rest of the Middle East. You would have to use massive Stoploss measure to retain troops, embark on monstrous recruitment drives, and probably renact the draft to fill the ranks.
Since a non-volunteer army sucks, this would steadily degrade the effectiveness of the US armed forces while at the same time geometrically increasing the expenditure.
As the nation spirals into bankruptcy, the national debt choking the economy into stagnant death, inflation of Weimar Republic proportions raging through the streets, and anyone not in uniform watching the opening shots of WWIII on CNN, you would be dragged from the Oval Office by an angry mob, hounded through the streets of Washington, and treated to a farewell party Mussolini-style.
You'd never close the borders because you would desperately need those people for the armed forces.
You would not only have to keep the IRS, but to pay the insane costs of your reckless world war you would have to constantly expand it. Your plans would require taxes to be doubled, then doubled again, especially with the loss of foreign capital investing in US debt.
Gays? You would be begging them to join up. You would need them.
Poverty? WPA? Your "WPA" would be called "The US Army." And I suppose making everyone poor does kind of "eliminate" poverty in a bizarre, twisted way.
And the IRS would be a thing of the past.
Tell me, o enlightened one, for I cannot understand the subtleties of your ingenious plan: How could your glorious new government afford to do anything without income, ie taxes? Or was your idea of getting rid of the IRS mainly just to replace it with tithes?
You, sir, are an ugly, evil human being. On top of that, you are incredibly stupid. Let's break your post down, shall we?
I'd wipe out the middle east and help Israel take it all over.
Are you really that much of an idiot? Nuke the entire area surrounding Israel, and the radiation will kill a majority of her citizens. I honestly don't know why fundies are so desparately defensive of Israel, we all know that they think Jews are hell-bound heretics.
Iraq would be part of Israel.
You saw what happened when we tried to make Iraq the 51st state in the Union, amirite? Or did you have your head in the suburban soil along with the rest of your Freecer-type buds? It's been a disaster ever since Dubya decided to "liberate" Iraq, so what do you think will happen when Maximilian decides to give it away like a Thanksgiving leftover to Israel?
Islam would be outlawed in America.
Ya know, for a member of a religion whose extremists cry "PERSECUTION!!!1!" when gays are allowed to have a parade in Greenwich Village or when the Supreme Court makes Roy Moore (I refuse to call him "Judge") remove his Ten Commandments from public property, you sure are eager to strip people of their Constitutional rights. In the immortal words of Sir Tempus, "Smile! You're on Candid Retard!"
The borders would be closed.
O SHI-!! MEXICANS!!!111111 Gawd forbid we actually take the time to make legal immigration cheaper, easier, and more accessible, yeah boy? Let's just lock them out of the country all together! WHITE POWER!!!! 14/88!!!!!
And the IRS would be a thing of the past.
Uh...what? Didn't you just say that you wanted to close the borders? If there's no IRS, then what's the excuse for shutting teh eevil Mexi-cants out of the USA?
Gays would not have equal rights.
You don't state a reason, but any argument against gay rights that any fundie has ever produced has been torn to bits by yours truly dozens of times. Next!
Poverty? I would re-enact the WPA.
No wealfare..you don't work, you starve.
Unless they were handicaped or had disabilities.
I don't think that such a thing as "wealfare" exists in my state, but there is welfare. That said, this is the most disgusting part of Maximoron's post. You obviously have noooo idea how difficult it is to get put on Disability in this country, do you? Severe depression, anxiety, and agoraphobia have rendered me useless to the workforce at the moment. To get Disability coverage, there is more red tape than you can imagine. I have my preliminary hearing with The Man (who is actually a woman) tomorrow, and I don't think I'm even close to getting the financial help I need. But I suppose mental illness probably isn't even a valid disability in your pathetic little opinion.
Congratulations, Maximilian, you are today's worst person on the internet!
Hmm, I swear I heard something like this before, don't tell me, I know who did it, think, think. Oh right. Hitler.
Right then. *puts on International Relations hat*
Despite your disconcertingly oversupportive policy towards them, I doubt Israel would go along with such a plan of yours, lacking the infrastructure or support to rule the middle-east, and that's only if it hadn't been fissioned out of existence. Then you've got the whole "nuclear wasteland" problem.
As Sandman mentioned, you've then probably got a Sino-Russian alliance to worry about, and I doubt that any British prime ministers would go as far to support you, not even Comrade Tony himself. The EU and the forces of Godless Socialism (TM) are likely to join the party as well, whether it's militarily, or taking in the vast amounts of Muslim and homosexual refugees produced.
How would he wipe out the Middle East and the IRS? He figures the soldiers will fight for free and we can drop the $420 billion a year for the military? Everyone will forgive our national debt and we won't have to pay the $400 billion a year in interest on it any more? That's $820 billion right there; over 80% of our personal income tax. And reneging on the debt would make the dollar virtually worthless. You'd be lucky to buy a gallon of milk with a C-note, and we'd be a third-world economy overnight. What about the $2 trillion the Federal Government owes the Social Security system? Just tell everyone who's paid into it all their lives that they're SOL?
Max wouldn't live a week.
Yyyyyeah... I think the US has enough people ticked off at us at the moment. The only thing keeping Israel from being overrun by its neighbors at this point is nuclear weapons (mind you, likely illegal, as everyone knows they have them but they've never acknowledged them) and a level of tenacity bordering on the insane.
The rest of the comments are typical short-sighted jingoistic idiocy.
Maximilian - single celled organisms ekeing out their meagre existence on the moons of Neptune have more understanding of Middle East politics than you do. The best you can hope for is to become president of your kindergarten class. Even then, I suspect that any averagely intelligent four-year-old could see through your bullshit.
By the way, if the borders are closed, how are you going to keep the market?. It´s not only about illegal immigration, you know. It´s about living. And second, Irak is, has benn and always will be, a sovereign country. You can´t decide, let alone by the presidential system in the USA, what two sovereign countries do with their lives.
No taxes-bliss. Think hard about what you are saying, Heather. With no taxes, neither local nor national government can pay for anything, eg the police, fire brigade, national health service, armed forces, road maintennance, garbage collection, local education authorities, etc.
Do you really want to live in a country without any of the above benefits? Because if you don't, you've got to pay for them.
It really is weird, the world over, how so many people just can't make the mental connection between the taxes they pay and the benefits they get from the government in return (Admittedly, what with the whole slush-fund way Gordon Brown currently collects and uses taxes, it's sometimes harder to see where they're all going, but that's hardly an argument to get rid of them altogether).
Show me the most patriotic citizen in the world and I'll show you someone who still wouldn't pay taxes voluntarily.
@Brain-in-a-jar: "It really is weird, the world over, how so many people just can't make the mental connection between the taxes they pay and the benefits they get from the government in return"
In the US, that's because there isn't any. Reagan created a $115 billion deficit with his tax cuts and everybody cheered. Then Bush II upped it into the $400 billions with his tax cuts, and everyone cheered even louder. Sadly, as long as funding the government with IOUs instead of taxes has no consequences that are easily visible to people who haven't studied economics (that would be most Americans), the connection gets ignored.
So wait... you're objecting to taxes because they infringe on your rights, but it's perfectly ok to infringe on OTHERS' rights by outlawing religions, murdering the people of an entire region, and discrminating based on sexual preference? Makes perfect sense.
Are you really that much of an idiot? Nuke the entire area surrounding Israel, and the radiation will kill a majority of her citizens. I honestly don't know why fundies are so desparately defensive of Israel, we all know that they think Jews are hell-bound heretics.
Yeah, but Israel is supposed to play a part in the Second Cumming of Jeebus Krist, so since they figure no Israel = no zombie Messiah the fundies are convinced that Murikka needs to keep Israel from getting overrun with angry Arabs. Doesn't mean they like Jews, but they figure if they play nice with them long enough they'll get their magic zombie, so...
You know, re: my earlier comments: bringing the WPA back would actually not be a bad idea, though not for the reasons this guy thinks. We could create a huge pool of skilled workers and get a lot of the infrastructure work we need done finished.
But not for beating the poor over the head with, sorry...
"Poverty? I would re-enact the WPA.
No wealfare..you don't work, you starve.
Unless they were handicaped or had disabilities."
You liberal wuss!
@Brain_In_A_Jar: Obviously some form of taxes are necessary, but they could be vastly lower if the government didn't waste money.
Also, most of the benefits you mention (all except the armed forces and some roads) are state and local, not federal taxes. Most people who live in rural areas get little or no benefit from the federal taxes they pay.
You could have just said "I'd institute a system of christian theocratic hate, racism, and bigotry." It's less to read, and quicker to the point.
If Iraq was meant to be a part of Israel, why didn't they do that after the second world war?, and how would you make roads and provide services without money?. And how would you activate the economy IF THE BORDERS ARE CLOSED?. Not that anybody is going to vote you with that "program"
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