The REAL burden of proof is on God (not us), and He has proven Himself in many ways, that is why we believe. Design is one way He has proven Himself. I mean, think about this: Your stomach contains some acids that are strong enough to burn through metal...yet you STILL have a stomach. It is because God DESIGNED it that way. He designed your stomach lining to secret mucus that neutralizes these acids at the lining to protect it...evolution didn't do this, design did this. And this is just ONE of the BILLIONS of proofs that God exists.
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Not good enough. The burden on proof that a person killed someone isn't on the knife that was used to kill them. The burden is on the person saying that the truth is that this guy killed the other guy. If you are telling people that there is a god, the burden falls on you. Otherwise you have to STFU.
no actually the reason we don't get digested by our own juices is because any organisms that DID get digested by their own juices didn't leave any offspring.
Please explain the the fact that the nerves on the human retina are on top of the retina, and have to go through the retina to get to the brain, thus meaning that we have a small "blind spot".
Yes, and he did a helluva job on disease pathogens; and 350,000 species of beetles; and the predator-prey arrangement; and parasites ... parasites are neat. Mammals that can't breathe underwater are cool. Let's not forget our vestigial tailbone (that God is such a joker). And natural disasters. They certainly help keep us alert. Yes, any fair-minded person must admit that his glories are manifold.
mucus. Just because an acid can react with various substances does not mean it can react with all of them. The stomach's mucus lining does not react with the acids.
Doesn't react with glass and most plastics either. That's why you store it in a big glass bottle in the back of the classroom lab. Its all a matter of chemistry.
This is why when you get some reflux, or barf, or have irritation and/or not enough mucus production, you feel it quite a bit.(and/or get an ulcer, THEN feel it).
This does not require design; no matter how small, a life-form that's killed by its own methods of killing/defending/eating/breathing/whatever doesn't get to breed for very long.
Well if the acid burned through a person's stomach, he would get sick and die. Ever hear of Gastric Reflux Disease? It can lead to esophagitis and cancer.
Also, as JD pointed out, acids react differently with different substances.
In other words, you fail .
Anti-nonsense wrote: 'Please explain the the fact that the nerves on the human retina are on top of the retina, and have to go through the retina to get to the brain, thus meaning that we have a small "blind spot".'
Incidentally, the eyes of cephalopods have the nerves behind the retina and so octopuses have no 'blind spot'. Odd that humans (supposedly the pinnacle of God's creation) have a second-rate design of eyeball.
Iaah Cthulhu!
"Anti-nonsense wrote: 'Please explain the the fact that the nerves on the human retina are on top of the retina, and have to go through the retina to get to the brain, thus meaning that we have a small "blind spot".'
Incidentally, the eyes of cephalopods have the nerves behind the retina and so octopuses have no 'blind spot'. Odd that humans (supposedly the pinnacle of God's creation) have a second-rate design of eyeball.
Iaah Cthulhu! "
Ya Cthulhu! Quazzle nagglethog, hail Cthulhu!
God could have designed a way of digestion that didn't involve acid, or given us acid-proof stomach linings, but he didn't! Praise the lord!
(Flashback to The Time Bandits: "Three hundred species of parrot. Nipples for men!")
In siddigrl's case, the mucus is secreted by the cerebellum.
The next generation of designed digestive systems will involve dessication and pulverization rather than chemical means. The Designer told me this.
Also, the Designer decided to move the genitals away from the excretory orifices.
The unveiling of the Beta version has been promised for later this year.
Honestly now, if God as you claim is perfect, please explain:
Parasites
Libido
Mutations
Homosexuality
Of all the bodies systems that so readily and clearly demonstrate the evolutionary process; natural selection. In a simplistic explanation; the stronger the acid the more efficient the nutrition system. This is balanced against the fact that a stronger acid is more likely to cause failure of the digestive system due to destruction of the stomach. These two competing facets are in equilibrium within a given population which is not under stress. Stress the population such that nutrition efficiency is now a key aspect of survival, those members of the population who produce more, or a more efficient mucus stomach lining will have the ability to contain a stronger digestive acid and hence will be more efficient in obtaining nutrition and hence will be more likely to survive and see its offspring survive. Repeat for generation after generation.
Another example which you can relate to yourself is the fact that since the environment we live in now is no longer “stressed” in a manner where intelligence is a key factor in survival; in fact the dumbing down process generally makes it far easier for those persons who are mentally challenged to survive and reproduce. Thus the proliferation of idiots, simpletons and morons like yourself.
Because you say it's so, doesn't make it so.
Assertions are not proof.
Goddidit is no argument.
The Bible doesn't count as scientific observations.
- Anyone who can think of more ways to say this... please keep it coming.
You're stupid. (Sorry, I have no patience today).
I recommend reading the whole thread. Takes a while, but there are some fantastic arguments on the part of the atheist.
Why did God design the esophagus and the trachea so close to each other, causing the death of a lot of people every year, from asphyxiation? This is just ONE of the BILLIONS of proofs that God is a shoddy designer, or that all of it was "designed" by natural selection which mostly creates "good enough" stuff. Take your pick, siddigrl. (Is that a shoddy spelling of City-Girl? Are you and your god related, or what?)
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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