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I have pictures to back up my facts and eyewitness accounts as to what I said.. We in the South, eye witnessed many things that happened that were covered up by the liberal media. The liberal media would not show much of what went on-- on many of these civil rights marches across the south because it would have upset their agenda. Why do you think the wiretaps and bugged recordings by Robert Kennedy of Martin Luther King have been classified or destroyed so the general public can not hear these recordings? I agree with you that the North is FULL of hypocritical white liberals. They want to cover up the historical facts about the North's complicity in slavery. The fact that a slave cost, sometimes a $1000 or more is well documented. I will admit there were slave owners who flogged their slaves, there are people everywhere who misuse things that they own. However, those that did, were hurting themselves, spiritually and financially because a beaten slave's value was greatly diminished. I am a Confederate descendant and I will tell you, I believe slavery was one of the greatest mistakes ever made by the North, which made huge sums importing slaves and the South that bought them. I admit much of the South's economy was based on slavery. However, most Southerners did not own slaves and fought the war between the states as much for states rights as anything. The original thirteen colonies believed in a loose coalition of colonies and believed each colony had to right secede. Many southerners were very independent by nature and were indignant at the thought of someone invading their territory with an army.

pcorder, IMDb 16 Comments [3/31/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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3/31/2007 11:00:19 PM

NotMe

Carrying a grudge for that long isn't healthy. Maybe some anger management would be in order. And please remember that while what is now the northern part of the US wasn't guiltless, they didn't force the slaves on the south. How about you learn the lessons that tim,e can teach and go on living?

3/31/2007 11:06:49 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Conspiracy, with a good dash of racism and a side order of deplorable politics, but not fundie.

3/31/2007 11:09:42 PM

anti-nonsense

This is more racist then anything else.

3/31/2007 11:11:14 PM

PhoenixUltima

It's funny (and by \"funny\" I mean \"makes me want to mow people down with an AK\"). For the longest time women and blacks weren't allowed to vote just because people are racist, fascist pricks. And yet the southern states, who went to war with the rest of America because they wanted to violate the constitution and keep enslaving black people, were allowed to vote after the civil war was over and done with. I don't get it. Over here is a group (women, blacks, various minorities) whose opinions and ideas are as valid as anyone else's, and people don't want them to vote, and over here is another group (good ol' southern boys) who are clearly mean-spirited, paranoid dumbfucks who nobody should ever listen to, and their right to vote was never questioned.

Why haven't we carpet-bombed the south already?

3/31/2007 11:16:33 PM

Old Viking

This may be questionable in places, but it isn't over the top. The poster doesn't exhibit the mentality of a KKK'er, he deplores slavery, and his comment about Southerners' motivation to fight seems accurate enough.

3/31/2007 11:22:50 PM

Patches

If the South ever tries to secede again, we should just let them. Then they can have their glorious theocracy and the rest of the country can finally make some headway in catching up to the rest of the world after having our progress stunted by fundies for so long.

Of course, after a decade or so when their civilization starts to fall apart, they'll probaby blame it on the Devils of the North and launch a holy war on us.

4/1/2007 12:06:05 AM

Witty Name Here

Yeah, they were so indignant at the thought of territory being invaded by an army that they fucking did that exact thing and started the goddamn war.

4/1/2007 2:30:50 AM

jo_27e

and that is why no one takes the south seriously

4/1/2007 3:21:13 AM

Sandman

\"However, most Southerners did not own slaves and fought the war between the states as much for states rights as anything.\"

Technically correct. However, it must be noted that the \"state's right\" they were fighting for was pretty much the right of the state to have slavery. Go figure.

4/1/2007 4:23:40 AM



Wait, are you telling us that NOW the slavery was a product from the north, who had NONE at the moment of the civil war?.

4/4/2007 6:38:44 PM

Gjervan

Both the Sandman and Old Viking are correct. pcorder is a bit into conspiracy, though.
#216057: Although Lincoln was elected on the anti-slavery platform and it was the "right" to keep slaves the South broke out and formed the Confederacy over, slavery in the Union wasn't federal outlawed before the war was started (by the Union, I might add), and even then mainly for making it morally impossible for Great Britian to support the Confederacy, as the British had outlawed slavery already in 1772 (slave-trading for the whole Empire in 1807).

Personally, I found it amusing he talked about "liberal media", when during the Civil War the Dems was the ones in favour of slavery, but then I read it again and realized he was talking about the Civil Rights in the '60s.

1/18/2008 3:56:05 PM

QuarkyHadron

DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS
It's not nice to pick on retards.

7/29/2008 7:00:04 PM

Rix

The Confederacy wrote thier own constitution. It's basicaly cribbed from the original but there are a few differences. One of them is that it guarenteed the right to own slaves. So slavery must have been a major concern if they wrote it right into thier founding document.

7/29/2008 10:30:49 PM



/I will admit there were slave owners who flogged their slaves, there are people everywhere who misuse things that they own./

Their slaves were not "things." They were living, breathing human beings. Their owners had no right to own them, no matter how well they treated them.

/However, those that did, were hurting themselves, spiritually and financially because a beaten slave's value was greatly diminished./

Hurting THEMSELVES? What about their slaves?!

/I am a Confederate descendant/

So what? My ancestors fought in the Greek Revolutionary War against the Turks. Does that mean that I'm entitled to think that all Turks are scum who should be wiped off the face of the earth?

/I admit much of the South's economy was based on slavery./

Good for you.

/However, most Southerners did not own slaves and fought the war between the states as much for states rights as anything./

Bull. I keep hearing Confederate apologists rant over and over again about states' rights. The rights to do what? Own slaves! In every new state constitution (or almost every) for the Confederate states, slavery was invoked as a right and as a major reason for secession. You want to talk about hypocritical? How about the fact that while the Southern states were whining about not being able to buy and sell people anymore, they demanded that the North return runaway slaves to them? States' rights? Give me a break.

/Many southerners were very independent by nature and were indignant at the thought of someone invading their territory with an army./

Notice that when Southerners are mentioned, it's implied that WHITE Southerners were independent by nature. What about black Southerners? What about Southerners that didn't necessarily favor slavery? You people are so caught up in the idea of a glorious Southern heritage that never existed that you forget all about the injustices that black Southerners endured.

7/30/2008 2:37:15 PM



Not as bad as a holocaust denier but close. Please, if slavery was a mistake WAS a mistake. Don´t try to sugarcoat it.

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