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(Supersport explains how animals in the wild never get sick. From three different comments in the thread)

Darwin, why do you think animals in the wild don't get diabetes? Why do they not get alzheimers? Why do they not get MS or or lupus or Depression? Why do they not get cancer? Why is it that dogs and cats start coming down with diseases such as cancer and diabetes only after they are in captivity....only after humans care for them and vaccinate them and give them all kinds of drugs, and processed food?

why is that?

[Mind-boggingly stupid statement. Animals in the wild do get various illnesses, but they don't usually survive long enough for us to find them while they are convalescing in a den or a nest, because they either starve or get eaten. In the wild getting sick is close to a death sentence.]

No they don't. Please show me where animals in the wild get diabetes, for example.

supersport, CARM 33 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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#205579

FishyFred

No they don't. Please show me where animals in the wild get diabetes, for example.

Sup.

4/10/2007 7:39:48 PM

#205627

GR^

U R SO STUPID

4/10/2007 8:36:34 PM

#205631

Boing

Well there's Rabies, for starters..

4/10/2007 8:38:15 PM

#205739

anevilmeme

I guess all this incorrect data was to support his point. WTF was the point?

4/10/2007 9:56:42 PM

#205775

Patches

Bird flu?

4/10/2007 10:33:43 PM

#205787

Papabear

Animals in the wild DO get cancer. We see it much more often in animals under human control because... WE ARE THERE TO SEE IT.

I have an idea, why don't you go live in the wild, totally without modern medicine, modern agriculture, modern transportation and creature comforts. In a couple of decades, lets see if you have diabetes or cancer... or are even alive.

4/10/2007 10:53:10 PM

#205810

JustinGG

My childhood cat died of cancer, buttmunch.

4/10/2007 11:25:36 PM

#205830

Old Viking

Supersport, if you go deep into the woods late at night, and if you're very, very quiet, you are likely to see the lab that makes insulin for animals.

4/10/2007 11:53:41 PM

#205850

Ringwraith

Supersport, you are absolutely right. The animals in the wild do not suffer from disease, because god made animals perfect. Disease is simply a punishment for man's transgression. Of course, God presumably also made perfect viruses and pathogenic bacteria, that would be punished if they weren't to have suitable hosts, but I will stay away from that unholy, and corrupting thought, and walk the Lord's path.

It is a fact, not only do animals in the wild never get sick, but wild animals actually never die, because death itself is a punishment for human sin. What happens is that angels change the animals into their spiritual forms, and they continue living as before, unseen to human eyes. Can't you sense it? All around you, you are surrounded by the invisible, and perfect forms of immortal squirrels. Near your monitor, you will find an invisible spider, and an immortal centipede. That rabbit stew that you ate at your friend's place? Be at peace friend, for that spiritual rabbit is warm and happy in your home, occasionally raiding your fridge for some carrots.

4/11/2007 12:21:29 AM

#205940

MrBadAxe

Feline AIDS.

You Lose.

4/11/2007 3:38:39 AM

#205941

Wet Walnuts

He just makes shit up as he goes along, doesn't he?

4/11/2007 3:39:59 AM

#206019

Witty Name Here

The Tasmanian Devil is currently being wiped out by cancer.

4/11/2007 5:04:11 AM

#206022

Mr_Vorhias

Okay, Morbo. You know what do to...

DISEASE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

4/11/2007 5:06:51 AM

#206028

TheMissus

Wild animals aren't diagnosed, you asshat.

4/11/2007 5:17:17 AM

#206058

Redhunter

Just so very, very, very stupid.
How does this guy survive in the world?

4/11/2007 6:16:35 AM

#206307

Matilde

Ok, explain to us what SARS is then, how we acquire AIDS and what the Antrax is. I would ask you as well, why is there a porcine plague and an equine one, and triquinox, specific to pigs and horses. Diabetes?, well, humans get mad cow disease but, to my knowledge, they don´t get equine plague.

4/11/2007 9:58:17 AM

#212179

TB

*headdesk*

4/17/2007 10:11:46 PM

#213404

Mling/Rebecca

Somebody needs to watch more Discovery Channel. I've absolutely seen examples of wild animals struggling with emotional or mental disturbances like depression.

Example--a silverback gorilla who recently lost one of his mates started lashing out violently at other members of his troup (gorillas are usually very gentle).
Just last night I saw a video of an elephant in the middle of a drought. Her youngest calf had died and the entire herd (is that the name for a group of elephants?) was getting desperately dehydrated. Rather than following her herd to the waterhole, she stayed with her dead calf and kept trying to nudge it to stand up. Meanwhile, both she and her other calf are risking death by dehydration, her herd is gone, and she stands there, charging any animal nearby, for hours.

4/20/2007 5:30:03 PM

#213435

Doctor Whom

My cat is 19. How likely do you think it is that she would have reached that age in the wild?

4/20/2007 6:08:12 PM

#214375

Laurel

As a former veterinary techician and wildlife rehabber, I have nothing to say to this beneath-contempt moron, but to Justin GG--Sorry about your cat. )-:

4/21/2007 10:45:20 PM

#214508

Darwin

Yeah, I remember that post. I thought my reply to him was simple enough, but a mind as tightly closed as his can't understand anything that it hasn't created itself.

4/22/2007 2:19:27 PM

#275916

choosebro

"Why do they not get alzheimers? "

I remember one Zebra, walking around the house, forgetting his grand children's names, talking about people who were dead as if they were still around, always misplacing his glasses.

It was sad really. No-one likes to see a Zebra in such a condition.

8/12/2007 9:33:41 AM

#276106

Piquerist

He is clearly of the 'if I didn't see it, it doesn't happen' school of non-thought.

8/12/2007 11:01:41 PM

#276111

Jim

Supersport, will you ever see the "light"?

8/12/2007 11:24:41 PM

#276117

Tempus

FIV. SIV. Distemper. Parvovirus. Cancer. Rabies. Influenza. Scrapie. BSE. Deer Chronic Wasting Disease. Psittacosis. Anthrax. Borrelia. Bubonic plague. Hantavirus. Toxoplasmosis. Echinococcosis. Oropouche Fever. Typhus. Yellow Fever. Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever. Leptospirosis. Borna disease. Bang's Disease. Blackleg. Anaplasmosis. Bovine Viral Diarrhea. Campylobacteriosis. Leprosy. Pasteurella.

Those are just a very, very few diseases that hit animals. I'm leaving out a lot of really interesting ones, as well as virtually all diseases caused by parasites and fungi, and all genetic disorders. Animals have also been observed to be suffering from some sort of psychological disorder at least vaguely analagous to psychological disorders in humans, such as OCD.

Animals in the wild either recover more or less completely, or they die. The rare exception is the animal that manages to find a compromise with its condition that allows it to survive long enough to reproduce.

In conclusion, you are full of shit.

8/13/2007 12:19:15 AM

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