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And you're right, if there is no God, then there is no reason for the universe. We would be a cosmic accident and by all standards we would be insignifgant nothings. Which means we are still no better then worms, which means Hitler, Pol Pot and Sadaam Hussein have done nothing wrong.

inverter, POD Warrior Forum 21 Comments [2/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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the truth is that we are a cosmic accident and are worth nothing in the big sense of things

4/26/2008 11:20:09 AM

Katsuro

inverter here needs some perspective:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k7hsQA3wo3Q&feature=related

4/26/2008 11:24:52 AM

Alena

And this is exactly why fundies scare the fuck out of me sometimes. To them, if there's no reason to be afraid of divine retribution, that makes inflicting pain and raping and murdering okay.

Which makes me wonder why they claim to be better people than those of us who don't believe in a higher power or any punishment/reward after death, yet treat other people with respect and kindness anyway.

4/26/2008 7:14:31 PM

Canadiest

You notice: They know nothing of the world , real history or current activities.

But they know of all totalitarian regimes and consider those rulers the most important people ever

I'm just saying

4/26/2008 10:32:52 PM

APOPHIS

SO IF WHAT HILTER AND THE OTHERS DID BY "KILLING" THE PEOPLE DOES THIS MAKE "GOD" THE MORE EVIL PERSION?

ONLY WITH GOD "KILLING" IS OK.


IN AN ATHEIST WORLD, WITH ONLY THIS ONE TO LIVE, KILLING IS WRONG.

4/29/2008 4:31:46 PM

Freboy

No, we don't have a divine purpose of existence.

But we can, in our lifetimes give meaning to events and people. That's what poetry is for.

By the way, that requires reading skills.

4/29/2008 5:42:57 PM

Feminazi

Which means we are still no better then worms,
We are not worthless. Stop thinking that way.

which means Hitler, Pol Pot and Sadaam Hussein have done nothing wrong.
Murder is wrong. Mass murder is wrong. Weither there is a god to judge it or not, it's still wrong.

4/29/2008 5:53:21 PM

Canadiest

Worms are the soils producers, they add nutrients and open up the ground for freer water distrubution. Arguably they are more important to this planet then we are

5/4/2008 1:10:34 PM

Canadiest

Your religions done the same

5/5/2008 10:53:22 PM

lisamariefan

Um, regardless of...

You know...I'm gonna just fucking facepalm for now. Rebutting this bullshit again is too much effort.

4/8/2010 11:23:02 PM

Karlsbad

"And you're right, if there is no God, then there is no reason for the universe."

Exactly right. There is no inherent meaning in the universe.

"We would be a cosmic accident and by all standards we would be insignifgant nothings."

Half right, we are a cosmic accident. But to say that we are insignificant nothings by all standards is quite incorrect. There's nothing objective to make us significant, but fortunately we are able to create our own standards and those can give significance to humanity.

"Which means we are still no better then worms, which means Hitler, Pol Pot and Sadaam Hussein have done nothing wrong."

There's a grain of truth in this. We aren't "better" than worms in any objective sense, nor can anything be called "wrong" in any objective sense. But again, we can create our own standards and those standards can define things as better or worse, good or bad. The key point is that in the end it all comes down to us and what we decide to value.

4/9/2010 1:52:27 AM

Swede

If there is no "reason" for the universe, then the reason is to live as good a life as you can.
How come it's so hard for some religious people to see this? Are they only "good" in fear of retribution?
I am good because it feels so good inside to be good, and people around me like me more if I am good to others. It's a win-win situation, really.

4/9/2010 2:07:10 AM

Anon-e-moose

"And you're right, if there is no God, then there is no reason for the universe. We would be a cosmic accident and by all standards we would be insignifgant nothings."

In the grand cosmic scale of things, yes we are. But we're here, so we might as well make the best of things, eh?

"Which means we are still no better then worms, which means Hitler, Pol Pot and Sadaam Hussein have done nothing wrong."



Frankly the concept of Sakura Kinomoto on Optimus Prime's shoulder, in a crossover of "CardCaptor Sakura" and "Transformers" has more relevance, than what you're trying to say here. Can you say 'Bad Analogy', inverter?

4/9/2010 8:30:33 AM

Quantum Mechanic

You're actually a cosmic joke.

4/9/2010 8:32:46 AM

D

Killing would still be wrong, whether there is a god or not.

4/9/2010 12:18:45 PM

Anonymous

I wonder if this is a by product of our hard-wired need to make sense of everything in our environment. The universe has no need of having meaning, but many humans need it to have meaning. Likewise, we have to rank everything as better-worse and good-bad. Of course we are not better than worms, but no worse either. After all, what can do a worm's job better than a worm? Moreover, worms have never produced a Hitler, Pol Pot, nor a Saddam Hussein. Even they were simply doing what humans have been doing since we showed up. Part of being human is to have the capacity to perpetrate wholesale slaughter on other humans. Can anyone look at history and deny it? Mercifully, it is not universally shared, and there are other parts of being human that are just as uplifting as the capacity for destruction is depressing.

Way over my 2 cents on this one.

4/9/2010 12:42:30 PM

Elia

Do these people even realize how psychotic they sound? I guess the one thing I can say in favor of organized religion, the Christian way, is that it keeps the worst of the bunch in check.

4/9/2010 1:09:08 PM

>twobraincells

Morality and divinity are not interchangable

7/2/2011 5:37:46 PM

Philbert McAdamia

These damn fundies go to extremes bending over backwards to let Hitler of the hook.

7/2/2011 6:22:21 PM

DasUberKaiser

No matter how insignificant we are, no matter how little meaning our lives have, no matter how unloved we are by cosmic forces, there will always be two absolute, incontrovertible facts: Pain hurts, happiness is good.

8/1/2013 11:02:08 AM

A. Square

We are insignificant nothings, with or without a God.

3/9/2014 6:09:02 PM
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