Quote# 23699

[That's the problem. You need evidence to support ideas.]
Fine --- give it to me then.

That's what I'm asking you guys to produce.

Impress me --- tickle me pink --- do something.

Just don't give me that old worn-out cliche: It didn't happen.

(And don't contradict the Scriptures, either.) [wink emoticon]

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 35 Comments [4/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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SIGH. They always want evidence but its never enough for them.

4/15/2007 5:25:39 AM


So you don't really want evidence you just want everybody to agree with you.


4/15/2007 5:26:34 AM


Don't contradict scriptures? Fine as long as you don't twist them to your own meaning.

4/15/2007 5:30:50 AM


Isn't this guy famous for being an asshat extraordinaire? A master of the art of fundie fuckwittery? A numbskull ninja even?

4/15/2007 5:36:39 AM


Why don´t you get any evidence, YOU, instead of asking others to do, again the tough job, while enjoying the benefit of typing in this computer?

4/15/2007 6:24:44 AM


Let's say I assert that, a long time ago, a cow literally did jump over the moon.
Show me a single shred of evidence that that's not true.

4/15/2007 6:34:55 AM

Brian X

Isn't it just like a fundy to put impossible conditions on the proof? How do you explain to these people that you go where the evidence leads, and you don't use third-hand information to constrain your results?

4/15/2007 6:42:22 AM

Hawker Hurricane

I don't need to contradict the Scriptures. They do a perfectly good job of contradicting themselves without any help from me.

4/15/2007 6:58:51 AM


\"numbskull Ninja\" I like it!

4/15/2007 11:54:56 AM


And don't contradict the Scriptures, either

I gather we aren't allowed to use the bible then?

4/15/2007 11:55:17 AM


we dont need to contradict the scriptures, they do a perfectly good job of that themselves

4/15/2007 12:01:28 PM


You want someone to disprove something that the Bible says is true, but you also want him to do it in a way which doesn't contradict the Bible.

Stacking cards much?

4/15/2007 12:19:37 PM


The problem isn't the evidence its your unwillingness to accept it.

4/15/2007 12:23:00 PM


AV wants scriptural 'proof', from what I gather.

Well, I'd say the Apocryphon of John pretty much blows Genesis out of the water.

4/15/2007 12:28:58 PM


AV's standard response to anyone who asks him to support his assertions: \"no, no, you prove me wrong first\".

4/15/2007 2:30:44 PM


Jacob, it is actually even worse than that. He isn't asking for evidence that disproves anything in the Bible. What he was actually asking for requires some explanation.

A while ago, the question, \"where did all the excess water from the flood go?\" was asked. Another poster, \"dad\" claimed that it was blown off the Earth and ended up on Mars (I think that quote has also been featured here). People were ridiculing this idea and that is when AV1611VET came and said something along the lines of \"well why don't YOU tell us where the water went if you're so smart, and don't give me the excuse that there was no global flood so you don't have anything to explain.\" This quote is from a continuation of that discussion.

So as you can see this is even dumber than what it looks like. He somehow got the idea that in a debate, it is his opponents’ job to argue his position for him.

4/15/2007 2:48:26 PM

Madame Scarlet

Give me evidence that I am wrong, but don't contradict what I believe!

4/15/2007 3:30:15 PM


The scriptures contradict themselves at every turn. Does that mean that you won't accept the scriptures because they contradicts the scriptures?

4/15/2007 3:34:00 PM


Okay but just to let you know all scientific observations are based on reality and reality has an annoying habbit of contradicting the Scrpitures.

4/15/2007 3:35:49 PM


Someone's scared of having his world turned upside-down.

4/15/2007 3:56:08 PM


So dense he's got his own gravitational pull...

4/15/2007 5:22:34 PM

Old Viking

You have to wonder who ties this guy's shoelaces.

4/15/2007 8:17:36 PM

Darth Wang

Prove that Scientology is wrong. But don't contradict Dianetics.

4/15/2007 9:56:05 PM


Where did all the flood waters go from the \"great flood\"? Gee that's easy, ask the Babylonians whose \"Gilgamesh\" the Jews stole \"Noah's Ark\" from , to ask the Sumerians whose \"Atrahasis\" the Babylonians stole \"Gilgamesh\" from!

4/15/2007 10:18:38 PM


The Scriptures contradict themselves...

4/15/2007 11:31:55 PM

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