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I would say 95% of Christians "tone down" the Gospel on a regular basis in order to avoid "offending" people. We cringe at the thought of sounding "intolerant." Some people claim we must water down the Gospel in order to draw in the unbelievers. That is to say, if we preach the Bible, they'll be "turned off." Here is my response to such heresy:

If we water down the Gospel in order to draw people into Christianity, it won't be Christianity anymore. It will be another gospel, and those people we "draw in" will be deceived by our false gospel, and will surely be condemned as a result.

Do we want to be responsible for such a thing?

Why not preach the truth boldly, and leave the rest to the sovereign God?

Why do we avoid preaching about the Judgement and the Lake of Fire when such events/places are BIBLICAL FACT?

IF WE REALLY LOVE UNBELIEVERS AS WE CLAIM TO, IS IT NOT OUR OBLIGATION TO WARN THEM ABOUT HELL?

Brent, Christian Forums 59 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Lazuline

People will \"surely be condemned as a result\" of believing in the \"watered-down gospel\"?
So, what, \"gay people go to Hell\" is as important as \"Jesus died for our sins\"?

5/1/2007 3:31:24 AM

Zoe

Translation: Moderate Christians will burn in hell.

5/1/2007 3:49:01 AM

Puck

I'm tired of the lunatic fringe calling itself \"Christian\".

Faced by a fundie's \"love\", your choices are limited to two: Hell and slavery.

I'm free to take my chances, and I'll stay that way, thanks very much. Fuck Pascal and his wager.

5/1/2007 3:53:20 AM

Papabear

\"Why not preach the truth boldly, and leave the rest to the sovereign God?\"

Why not shut the heck up and leave it all to God?


\"IF WE REALLY LOVE UNBELIEVERS AS WE CLAIM TO, IS IT NOT OUR OBLIGATION TO WARN THEM ABOUT HELL?\"

If it's such an important issue, why would God leave the job to you? Can't God bring people to Christianity without the help of the likes of you?

5/1/2007 4:08:34 AM

Ms. Demenor

So God is completely useless without human intervention? Funny that.

5/1/2007 4:27:03 AM

Wet Walnuts

\"Biblical Fact\"? There's an oxymoron for ya.

And if your god is so powerful, why does he need you as a mouthpiece?

5/1/2007 4:29:16 AM

Hollio

Haven't we had this quote on here before?

5/1/2007 6:11:44 AM

Matilde

Since I´ve never seen a fundy preaching the Gospel AT ALL(never mention the NT),and you censor all the parts of the OT which don´t match our current mores(forbidding eating lobster, for example), it would be a good picture of you. And by the way, since 95% of the people are not going to Heaven, the notion of heaven and hell will be useless in the long run.

5/1/2007 6:54:57 AM

Matilde

No, actually, among the things Jesus said that you have to do to fulfill his will, preaching about hell is not one of them. Hell is not as pivotal as you think. It´s mentioned very seldom in the NT and less seldom in the OT. And it´s always stated that it´s a kind of punishment AFTER you misbehave, not a pivotal part. It´s like saying, \"why not telling the tourists who visit the States about the death penalty?\"

5/1/2007 7:50:18 AM

The_Boids

But isn't everybody going to Hell according to somebody?
And please, by all means, include all the juiciest, most outrageous, most shocking parts of the Bible. It would be refreshing to hear readings from something other than the WW (WhiteWashed) Bible.


5/1/2007 8:51:02 AM

jo_27e

heres a good reason to avoid preaching about hell, if you do, we'll only tell you to fuck off and die

5/1/2007 9:15:18 AM

Napoleon the Clown

You've warned us. Many times. Guess what? We don't believe you. Fuck off please.

5/1/2007 9:23:12 AM

Laurel

I would say 95 per cent of Christians are reasonable people, but those other 5 per cent are a real pain in the ass.

5/1/2007 9:45:29 AM

szenah

I love it!


Fundies routinely water down the parts of the New Testament in which Jesus preached against piling up wealth or the descriptions of the communistic practices of the early Christians in order to keep conservative Americans in the fold.

Why do you avoid preaching that Jesus told the rich man to sell all he owned? Why do you avoid his words about the chances of a rich man getting into heaven?

5/1/2007 11:24:40 AM

Zeniel

Ok I'll warn people about hell. Look out hell!

5/1/2007 11:51:38 AM

mjonesQuaker

It gives me a twisted sense of satisfaction to know that I sealed the little boy's fate this time around.

Whoa, watch out for that fiery pit to your left, there, Brent! You know what happens to those Pharisees, don't you?

5/1/2007 11:57:11 AM

Man Called True

Well, seeing a fundie actually preach the gospels would be a neat trick, given that their knowledge consists of half of Leviticus, all the bits that deal with Hell (and there aren't that many), and a whole lot of bullshit...

5/1/2007 11:57:54 AM

David S.

\"...people we \"draw in\" will be deceived by our false gospel...\"

The above is true. Whether the teaching is forward, backward or upside down is irrelevant.

5/1/2007 12:06:58 PM

Coffee

If your Gawd was as all-powerful as you think, he wouldn't need an assbite like you, Bent, to spread his message. He's more likely to hire an agent and mount a PR campaign than to rely on the sort of lunatics that scream Bibble verses on streetcorners.

5/1/2007 12:48:31 PM

Firthy2002

There are no facts in the Bible.

5/1/2007 3:25:03 PM

Admiral Crunch

I think 95% of Christians (or whatever) water down the gospel because deep down they realize how utterly ridiculous it is but still succumbs to mob mentality.

5/1/2007 4:21:59 PM

Berny

Go for it.
When those 95% get a good listen at the venom and garbage fundie twits like you call the \"true\" Biblical message, they desert the Christian faith in droves.
Well, at least the intelligent ones will.

5/1/2007 4:37:19 PM

BurntBush

Don't worry Brent. Smart people won't fall for it anyway.

5/1/2007 5:10:11 PM

tracer

If we water down the Gospel in order to draw people into Christianity, it won't be Christianity anymore.

Somebody should've told that to Paul of Tarsus, when he decided to do away with the old dietary and circumcision laws in order to draw in the Gentiles.

5/1/2007 5:46:06 PM

Old Viking

Brent really gets off on The Lake of Fire(R).

5/1/2007 9:08:55 PM
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