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"Atheists would like us to believe that they are being persecuted because we live in a country with "In God We Trust" on our currency....and "Under God" in our Pledge of Allegiance....this is NOT persecution....this is living in a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. This is the way this country has been for hundreds of years. It was not changed during this generation simply to make your lives harder for your beliefs. Stop crying about it....everyone deals with unfair issues....whether it be race, religion, income....whatever. Life is hard and it isn't fair. Get over it. And here's some food for thought....you don't believe in God....well, I don't believe in atheists. I think many people like to profess atheism because then they aren't burdened by having to live up to a higher calling....but when it comes right down to it, I don't believe in true atheism. When an atheist is in a horrible car wreck and lies there dying, you can't tell me they won't call out to God in desperation....or when their innocent child is dying a terrible death by cancer, that they won't say a desperate prayer to God to help their child....you can (and probably will) argue with my beliefs, but they are what they are. Oh, and just for the record, I am not persecuting you or discriminating against you, I am simply exercising my right to free speech....in this beautiful Christian nation in which in God we trust."

Jaime Baldwin, Times News magicvalley.com 56 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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szenah

Oh, and just for the record, I am not persecuting you or discriminating against you, I am simply exercising my right to free speech


Sure, and if someone reversed that speech and made it about Christians you'd be the first to cry persecution.

5/1/2007 12:54:57 AM

anti-nonsense

And yet, the first time the government disagrees with Christian beliefs, the Christians start screaming bloody murder.

5/1/2007 12:57:52 AM

√ėyvind

Paragraphs, kid, paragraphs.

Atheists would like us to believe that they are being persecuted because we live in a country with \"In God We Trust\" on our currency....and \"Under God\" in our Pledge of Allegiance...
Strawman. Persecution of atheism and estabilishment of religion are two different things.

this is NOT persecution....this is living in a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. This is the way this country has been for hundreds of years. It was not changed during this generation simply to make your lives harder for your beliefs
History revisionism makes the American Eagle cry.

. Stop crying about it....everyone deals with unfair issues....whether it be race, religion, income....whatever. Life is hard and it isn't fair. Get over it.
Feel that Christian love.

And here's some food for thought....you don't believe in God....well, I don't believe in atheists. [Long elaboration on the 'no atheists in foxholes' argument]
You've merely proven that only in times of desperation, when we're not thinking rationally, we resort to God. Let me make an analogy.

I know this house I'm sitting in can withstand a good deal. Norwegian houses are sturdy and well-insulated. But I'm still scared when violent winds and rains hit the area and make the walls creak, even though I know they'll never hurt me while I'm indoors.

Same with the belief in ghosts and big, empty, dark old houses. Or the belief in God and facing death.

5/1/2007 12:58:46 AM

Old Viking

(a) We were not founded as a Christian nation; we were founded as a secular humanist nation. You could look it up.

(b) Atheists find \"Under God\" and \"In God We Trust\" minor annoyances.

(c)No, we don't call out to God or any other imaginary being when we are under stress.

But, anyway, thanks for the lecture.

5/1/2007 1:10:12 AM

anevilmeme

\"....this is living in a Christian nation founded on Christian principles.\"

Treaty of Tripoli Bitch!
Article 6, Paragraph 3 of the US Constitution Bitch!

\"...well, I don't believe in atheists.\"

You're not firing on all cylinders are you?

\"I am simply exercising my right to free speech.\"

Me too, you're a fucktard.

5/1/2007 1:10:28 AM

Goosey

Atheists would like us to believe that they are being persecuted

Not at all. This is false, so the rest of it is based on a false premise.

Of course, atheists would like people to believe that you would like to persecute them, and are very interested in preventing that from happening. That's something different, though.

5/1/2007 1:14:20 AM

Doctor Whom

What started in the fifties is not \"the way this country has been for hundreds of years,\" even by the most elastic of fundy dating systems.

5/1/2007 1:48:08 AM

richard skidmark

Please take a history course.
Just a two-week history course would help.

5/1/2007 1:56:58 AM

Lunalelle

So basically you're telling us to sit down and shut up because oppression is natural for the minority.

But you're allowed to scream about being oppressed all you want.

And yeah, maybe I would shout out to God in desperation. Key word: desperation.

5/1/2007 2:58:52 AM

Amused

America is not a Christian nation. I'm sorry, it just isn't.

5/1/2007 3:45:12 AM

Papabear

\"When an atheist is in a horrible car wreck and lies there dying, you can't tell me they won't call out to God in desperation....or when their innocent child is dying a terrible death by cancer, that they won't say a desperate prayer to God to help their child\"

Just because that is what YOU would do, doesn't mean it is what WE would do.

5/1/2007 4:20:32 AM

Wet Walnuts

Yawn...same old boring, unoriginal shit. Next.

5/1/2007 4:26:55 AM

Madame Scarlet

\"I think many people like to profess atheism because then they aren't burdened by having to live up to a higher calling...\"

Maybe I think you like to profess Christianity because you can't handle the thought that maybe, when you die, that's it. There is no heaven waiting for you, or hell waiting for us sinners.

If there ever is a time when I cry out to God, it won't be because I think he's there, but because I sincerely hope that maybe he is. I can't make myself believe in fairy tales.

5/1/2007 4:31:48 AM

Ms. Demenor

Somebody call in a whaaaaaaaaaambulance for this guy.

5/1/2007 4:32:22 AM

Current

Once more, I'm glad I'm not American.

5/1/2007 4:49:23 AM

Filiae Maestae Terra

\"You atheists aren't being persecuted! But if you are, don't worry about it: lots o' people have to deal with the same stuff you have to! Also, when you get into some horrible autowreck, you may be crying out to God, because this nation is a beautiful Christian nation!\"

5/1/2007 4:49:28 AM

Redhunter

Jaime's Mother: Wake up sweetie! Jesus says you are late for homeschool!

Jaimie Baldwin (also known as the Crap Parrot) you are so completely wrong and unoriginal that I will merely give you a cracker and put the blanket over your cage. There, there, sleep now mindless parrot.

5/1/2007 5:11:16 AM

Rabbit

Skwisgaar: Pshh, this is dildos. Doesn't he know there's no such thing as religion?
Nathan: You mean you don't believe in god. There is such a thing as religion.
Skwisgaar: Well prove it! Show me a miracle that religion exists!
Nathan: Well, uhh, the Bible's right there.
Skwisgaar: Well maybe I re-evaluates my life.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Metalocalypse

5/1/2007 6:42:57 AM

noself

Mirror mirror on the wall, please explain to me why the fundies cry persecution when there are attempts to remove those phrases please?

5/1/2007 6:51:26 AM

Matilde

Atheist find strange that a country which has a total freedom of religion, whose law is based on jurisprudence and has a motto inserted in the fifties, is called \"christian\"

5/1/2007 7:08:17 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Life is hard and it isn't fair.

'Life's Hard' is only ever said as a less indifferent sounding version of 'I'm not going to lift a finger to help you', usually by people who aren't currently suffering because of said unfairness.

5/1/2007 10:27:24 AM

NotMe

Atheists would like us to believe that they are being persecuted because we live in a country with \"In God We Trust\" on our currency....and \"Under God\" in our Pledge of Allegiance....this is NOT persecution....this is living in a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. This is the way this country has been for hundreds of years.


For hundreds of yearssince the 1950s.

5/1/2007 1:34:20 PM

Ambrielle

No. If I'm injured or sick, I won't pray to God. I might have fun cursing God, although it doesn't mean I would actually believe in his existence, it's just a way of relieving stress, and getting your fundie knickers in a knot.

5/1/2007 1:52:34 PM

Firthy2002

I guess you cut school during history class.

5/1/2007 3:15:36 PM

The Sarah Fish

*cough*TreatyofTripoli*cough*

5/1/2007 3:22:45 PM
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