[Responding to a poster asking why Mithras, Attis, and Dionysus have similar stories to Jesus.]
There are promises throughout the bible that God's Word was preached to "every creature." Just as men corrupt the bible today (400 Christian denominations), why wouldn't you think men thousands of years ago were taking the Word of God and re-writing it for their own benefit? In a few thousand years, if you have your bible in hand and unearth a book of Morman, will you contend that the bible copied Joseph Smith or vice versa?
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Well, it´s explainable bearing in mind that Dyonisus, Mitthras and Attis are mentioned at least 200 years before Christ is. That is. And by the way, do you know who they were?
Just so you'll know Tychicus. Mithras is the Hertzgovinian god of myths, Attis is the Khazakistani god of attics, and Dionysus is the Polynesian god of dinosaurs. Now impress all your friends(people who know you)with your great intellect(smarts) by telling them this.
The Bible was preceded by these myths and a great many like them. There were at least a dozen god-men who died and came back to life long, long before anyone heard of Jesus. There was a window of about 1500 years during which you couldn't join the Gods' Bowling League if you hadn't risen from the dead. By the time Jesus got around to it, it was a cheap parlor trick.
Try learning some non-Bible history and save yourself embarrassment.
This remidns me of that page of Cap's site ("Back-To-School Special") where Cappyman claims that the cross came before the Ankh and the Ankh was mocking the cross, despite the Egyptian ankh coming long before crucifixion....and how could the Egyptains possibly know to mock something that hadn't become a religious symbol yet??
Someone should post that page on FSTDT....
This evokes a philosophic-oid speculation:
Let us suppose that the Universal Human Truth had made itself known to all the various peoples of the world, independently and consistently. Tribal shamans were entitled to meld their specific understanding of same into their tribal cultures and, as they usually chose, lend credence therewith to their local tribal gods.
These universal truths [Never drink downstream from the herd, don't forget to wipe, rub her feet, etc] had been passed down via the oral tradition until metropolitan centers developed [ca 4000 BC] and subsequently recorded as soon as writing was developed.
Socrates and Mencius were essentially expounding on the same wisdom, in Athens and China, at roughly the same era [four centuries or so BC].
The scripture that managed to prevail in Europe, and consequently the new world, was tailored for middle-eastern sheepherders and the townies of the time, who seemed to be essentially belligerent misogynist assholes.
Jesus [as quoted in the gospel of Thomas] said much the same thing as Socrates, as did his contemporary Hillel the Elder...Descartes updated it to the context of 15th-century Europe, and the wheels of Enlightenment started rolling.
As to the modern theists, the god of a surgeon doesn't necessarily share the attributes of the astrophysicist's god...but the god of a FundaBap preacher is essentially a god of slaves. Curiously, the Universal Human Truth is lacking with this god...or, it is simply overwhelmed by the attendant poisonous bullshit.
Well, since The Book of Mormon clearly indicates that it is an "additional" book of scripture intended to be read in concert with the KJV, I suspect that I would pretty much figure it out.
Bad example, Tychicus1769. I see a pattern of writing without fully considering what you are saying in your posts.
TARDIS for Jesus Award- I agree.
Come on, even christians should know that egyptian and greek mythology predate the bile.
So does Zoroastrianism, and all the *other* myths and beliefs that Christianity and its predessesor ripped off.
That argument would be sound, if it weren't for the fact that the myths regarding Mithras, Attis and Dionysus hadn't been told centuries before Jesus was supposed to have been born.
Way to fail history and basic mythological studies, Tychicus.
We know for a fact that those legends preceed the story of Jesus by thousands of years.
Nonsense! We have ALWAYS been at war with Eurasia.
In a few thousand years, if you have your bible in hand and unearth a book of Morman, will you contend that the bible copied Joseph Smith or vice versa? Vice versa. Because the Bible came first .
Think about it for a few minutes. I know that's hard for you, O fundie, but try.
How can one steal a story that hadn't been written yet?
Death is the most powerful force we know of. All succumb to it. Is it hard to think that some people made some shit up to make them feel better about their inevitable death?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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