(You don't get to make one or have one, you're a man. I know.. I know.. the powerlessness is immasculating... and that's the real problem isn't it. Real secure men, they can deal with that.)
Real secure men will stand up to any woman in the world and say it is wrong to kill a unborn child. You are destroying your future if you kill your unborn child. That is the real deal. You can spew that pro-planned parenthood dribble if you want too. But Abortion will always be evil. Abortion will always be ugly. And someday the Men will retake America and put it back on track and ensure that all life is protected from conception to natural death.
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What's 'Wrong' is fuckers like you who think it's your place to tell a woman what she should do with her own body.
You have OPINIONS based on your life and your holy book. you don't have the right to 'stand up' to some woman and chastise her. Why don't you, your book and your god have a nice little threesome. No one will get pregnant!
ensure that all life is protected from conception to natural death
Unless of course that life does something wrong. Then we give it the chair.
When men are primarily responsible for preventing conception, carrying the developing child to term, birthing it, and seeing to its physical, emotional, mental, and social needs for two decades, then they can talk to me about abortion.
"You don't get to make one or have one, you're a man. I know.. I know.. the powerlessness is immasculating... and that's the real problem isn't it. Real secure men, they can deal with that."
Excellent point. Men have no power in this sitch, and some of them simply can't deal with it. Esp the ones who are brainwashed to think there's a magical old man in the sky who wrote a book about how men shuld rule. Even though they suck at it.
I know, all real men are against abortion. That's why real men always insist on abstinence or at least insit on using condoms when they can not resist the *evil eve's* sedusing games! Real men never leave women to raise the kids by themselfes. Real men are freely and generously paying child support...
Wake up, man!
Men are the number 1 pro-abortion. In fact, the vast majority of abortions is the result of men pressuring their girlfriends to or abandoning them, because what´s going on with the baby is not their business. It´s always been like that, don´t be offended.
And it´s right. When a man is a declared non-sex abstinent, I hear no critics. When a man doesn´t pay child support is a hero. When a man runs away from a pregnant girlfriend, he tries to make her look like a slut. There is always somebody who justifies a rape saying that "she was asking for that". Are there pro-life pickets in the abortion clinics?, yes, are they the fathers of the babies?, sarcasm wellcome. Besides, if men never guaranteed the end of a war, or the illegal abortions or the end of the death penalty, they´re not "retaking" anything.
ensure that all life is protected from conception to natural death
On a machine that keeps your blood flowing, lungs working, stomach filled and removes your bodily wastes.
MilkyWay said exactly what I wanted to say... So I'm going to say it anyway. :D
"Ensure that all life is protected from conception to natrual death," unless that life happens to be female.
In which case I suppose it'll be protected from life to death during labor in a maximum security breeding facility, if this loony has his way.
On a machine that keeps your blood flowing, lungs working, stomach filled and removes your bodily wastes.
That's my dream, too.
ill tell you something. if you become pregnant unwillingly, have a child, be a good parent (and i mean a mother, none of that typical man-running-away-from-it-all shit that so many males do) until that child is 18 (or older if it goes to university) then the world can become a male-dominated pro-life hell. but since thats not going to happen go fuck yourself.
He's not a Doc, he's a "Corpsman". Since he's only a 3rd class, he's not even qualified to put on band-aids without proper supervision.
SM1(SW) USN (ret) 1984-2004
having recently been compelled to use emergency contraception (morning after pill), i'd have to save that "killing an unborn child" actually may have SAVED my future. i could not care for a child at this point in my life, and i would definitely have a tough time teaching that kid that God wanted us to grow up poor because mommy and daddy had to drop out of college to work and support the family since none of their grandparents wanted to help us anymore.....
the kid would have a better chance in 6 years or so when i'm done with grad-school
And someday the Men will retake America and put it back on track and ensure that all life is protected from conception to natural death.
I assume, then, that you oppose capital punishment.
Right, Ratty?
And someday the Men will retake America and put it back on track and ensure that all life is protected from conception to natural death.
That's such a ridiculous statement. So, by protecting life, do you also mean to stop wars? Last time I checked, wars have all been started by men in control of their countries (or, like Hitler, their adopted countries).
Or does dying in a war also constitute a "natural death" for a fundie?
One day
women will take over the earth
and men will be forced to live
in underground cities
and used only as workers
and sex slaves
then
and only then
will all be right with the world.
Love
is the answer to everything
Tolerance
is the question when it shouldnt be
You are destroying your future if you kill your unborn child.
What if it is rape or etopic?
But Abortion will always be evil.
God killed thousands of unborn babies in the OT.
Does that make god evil?
Abortion will always be ugly.
Refere to the above.
And someday the Men will retake America and put it back on track and ensure that all life is protected from conception to natural death.
Yeah, you people did a really good job of protecting Wanda Jean Allen's life, didn't you?
You're ruining your future if you don't have the child that you cant afford to raise in a healthy, loving environment! Don't you see that? Don't You?!?!?!
PS. Abortions aren't as ugly as ... YOUR FACE! (HA!)
"You can spew that pro-planned parenthood dribble if you want too."
It's often humorous when people misuse 'dribble' instead of m'drivel', but this really got me started, thinking back to another time, and about how a spew and a dribble led ME to parenthood.
Thanks for the memories, Rat.
Assholes like this turd make me ashamed to be male. I do NOT have the right to force women to do (or not to do) anything s far as her own body is concerned. I'm no fan of abortion but it's none of my business as far as a woman's reason for getting one, and I will not stand in her way. I do not have the right to stop her; it's a choice for HER - not me or any other man - to make. For idiots like him, it's all about CONTROL - fundies believe men have the divine RIGHT to control women. Go back to your fundy church & assume the usual position of having your head up your ass.
And haven't you wondered that, since men can't give birth, whatever they do is fruitless?. Look it this way, legally or illegally, natural or unnatural, the ultimate fate of the woman and the baby is withing her. Moreover, have you ever considered that 90% of the women who abort is because men have deserted LONG AGO?, again, how are men going to retake something that they didn't bother with to begin with?
But fundies will always be evil. Fundies will always be ugly. And someday the satanic fundies will retake America and put it back on track and ensure that all life is fucked up from conception to natural death.
Truth hurts, doesn't it. asshole?
I can safely say until a man can bear a child, he doesn't really have a say in the matter of abortion.
It's ugly. Yes, it does affect a woman's mental health, but mostly due to the stigma attached to it. It's horrible, but they're not doing it for shits and giggles, they're doing it because most of the time...? They don't have a choice. Rape. Alcohol or drug dependency. Ectopic pregnancy. No funds; or partner leaving. And later on; the child is proven to be sick and likely to be stillborn. So all that work - for nothing. Makes me sick, actually.
Children should be raised with loving care - from two parents of either or same sex, or one parent and a group of others...but most importantly with love, and with confidence and hope. And they can do that in any religion.
What is evil is the fear mongering of your branch of the church that spreads it's roots from the adults to the children, choking them on dogma and restrictions. It's no wonder so many of them reject the world in all it's beauty and grace, and all it's people too.
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