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Atheists have taken dishonesty to new and ludicrous heights by pretending to have sought high and low for evidence that God exists and, supposedly failing to find such evidence, have wandered off into the darkness mumbling that "there ain't no God." The problem being with this scenario, of course, is that the so-called evidence they have "examined" has been hand-selected to provide the pre-determined desired "proof" of the lack of God's existence. All evidence which WOULD prove the existence of God is, on one bogus pretext or another, disallowed. God is perfectly capable of proving His own existence--the problem is He can only work with open minds.

If atheists were REALLY interested in proof of God's existence, each one of them would look within themselves, find out what the inner need is which drives them to deny the obvious, get that need healed or met as the case may be, and start living like rational children of God. That worked well for me.

ephraimanesti, Christian Forums 39 Comments [5/2/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Sideshow Bob

I REALLY need to make that fundamentalist cliche bingo. I found two things that would be markable on the card:

1) Sweeping Generalizations about Atheists
2) Presuming to know the hearts of other people.

5/2/2007 10:02:00 PM

szenah

3) Calling non-believers \"close-minded.\"

5/2/2007 10:06:07 PM

The Watcher

I'll thank you people to stop trying to tell me what I'm thinking.

5/2/2007 10:08:42 PM

anevilmeme

\"God is perfectly capable of proving His own existence--the problem is He can only work with open minds.\"

So God ISN'T all powerful?

Oh and what proof did you have for God's existence?

5/2/2007 10:34:26 PM

Doctor Whom

4) Asserting that there is evidence for your position, but not providing it.

5/2/2007 10:37:14 PM

Aoshi

Fallacy Count:
Appeal to Open-Mindedness
Ad hominem
Special Pleading
Hasty Generalization

Four off the top of my head. Probably more.

5/2/2007 10:41:20 PM

Angel Kaida

All RIGHT. This is just one big steaming pile of fail. A minor point:
I know many atheists, and I only know one who says \"ain't.\" That's my boyfriend, and on pain of tolerating the utter loss of his girlfriend's mind, he would never stoop so low as to say \"ain't no.\"
So, while we are all perfectly aware that you are attempting to portray nonbelievers as morons, no. You fail. A lot.

5/2/2007 10:42:21 PM

Osiris

I am now convinced you can read this quotes and play a special fundie version of bingo all at the same time.

5/2/2007 10:42:55 PM

rob

Bow, God! Bow before the apparently unlimited power of my closed-mindedness! Clearly it is the only thing preventing him from materializing in the modern world, performing universe-altering miracles, and ending all suffering! I am the immovable object to his unstoppable force! I am the only thing preventing everlasting happiness from embracing the globe, because I happen to find some parts of the bible to be, in my experience, a bit dubious!

Bwah-hahahahaha!

5/2/2007 11:33:56 PM

Old Viking

Because of my background I know more about Christianity -- history, philosophy, doctrine, dogma, apologetics -- than you ever will. That's why I'm an atheist.

5/3/2007 12:07:39 AM

Mister Spak

\"That worked well for me.\"

Based on your post, no it hasn't.

5/3/2007 12:08:00 AM

Puck

I followed the example of the ancients and created my own god. He's a whole bunch smarter than yours.

5/3/2007 12:29:51 AM

John

God is perfectly capable of proving His own existence

That's right. All he has to do is appear on the Six O'Clock News. Has He ever done that? No. He's invisible, intangible and undetectable, and yet He expects us to believe in Him and punishes us for disbelief. Read Antony Flew's description of the Invisible Gardener. How does an invisible, intangible God differ from no God at all? In 2,500 years, no one has come up with a successful proof that God exists, and likewise, no one has come up with a proof that He doesn't exist. Ephraimanesti is not likely to succeed where so many smarter than he have failed.

5/3/2007 12:32:31 AM

Mling/Rebecca

Is there a \"death by irony\" award?

5/3/2007 12:35:51 AM

Firthy2002

I haven't examined any evidence, because there is none.

5/3/2007 12:45:55 AM

pbagosy

Atheists have taken dishonesty to new and ludicrous heights by pretending to have sought high and low for evidence that God exists and, supposedly failing to find such evidence, have wandered off into the darkness mumbling that \"there ain't no God.\"

For the billionth time: The burden of proof of your god rests with you to prove it, not with us to disprove it. We don't have to go looking for evidence of the thing you say exists. We simply sit back and watch as you fail to produce any. We're not the one's claiming that an invisible angry sky fairy is going to fry us for eternity, why should we be required to prove it for you?

-pb

5/3/2007 1:51:05 AM

vichycycl

Dear rob

I never knew. I will however be building no shrines. Nice coup on the almighty though ;)

~vc

5/3/2007 2:15:52 AM

Moxy

So if we're really interested in proving wheather or not there's a god, we just need to start believing there is.

Funny, I didn't think that was quite how \"proof\" worked.

5/3/2007 2:36:10 AM

Redhunter

God is perfectly capable of proving His own existence--the problem is He can only work with open minds.


Patented bullshit. I am proof you are wrong. And if you think for a moment I wasn't serious when I 'beseeched' him, then fuck you sideways with a roto-tiller.

As for your last paragraph, that is what I did. I found out what I needed, and it wasn't a belief in a non-existant god.

That worked well for me.

5/3/2007 7:05:21 AM

Sinister Minister

Um, well \"looking inside yourself\" isn't considered scientific evidence. And no, that ain't a \"bogus pretext.\"

5/3/2007 8:58:52 AM

Sinister Minister

anevilme:

Don't forget, the fundie God is also allergic to the tiniest human sin. He feels icky if any of the flawed creatures that were the apex of His creation come near Him. However, If you appreciate the fact that he let some of the other flawed creatures torture his one and only son to death, then you're \"clean.\"


5/3/2007 9:09:49 AM

Ambrielle

Er, you can pick any evidence you want (with the exception of the BuyBull), and let's examine it scientifically shall we?

5/3/2007 11:11:30 AM

Matilde

If God doesn´t manifest himself to our eyes, there is no way in which he can work with \"open mindness\". It´s more natural to believe that there is probably no god or gods than there is one or several. However, we´ll never find someone who can demostrate or refute its existence.

5/3/2007 12:31:40 PM

Nameless

Originally posted by ephraimanesti

All evidence which WOULD prove the existence of God is, on one bogus pretext or another, disallowed.

And you know this, because you want to believe it's that way?

Originally posted by ephraimanesti

God is perfectly capable of proving His own existence--the problem is He can only work with open minds.

Not really, most Christians usually say you have to basically believe in God before you are going to get any \"evidence\". That's not an open mind. That's wishful thinking, which evidently leads to a closed mind.

Originally posted by ephraimanesti

If atheists were REALLY interested in proof of God's existence, each one of them would look within themselves, find out what the inner need is which drives them to deny the obvious, get that need healed or met as the case may be, and start living like rational children of God.

I'm not denying the obvious and you are not being rational.

Anyhow, the inner need is the need for truth. I don't want want to lie to myself just to make myself feel good (nor bad, if you are into self-flagellation). I rather deal with the reality. As far as I'm concerned this is very healthy. It's you who could use some healing.

5/6/2007 10:01:46 AM

Rhys

\"Rational children of god\" is an oxymoron

5/9/2007 10:42:52 AM
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