(Pro-Life is a ridiculous name. What a low blow. Pro-Choice should be upgraded to 'Pro-Humanity'. "We care about ALL of humanity, you simply care about forcing the population to grow, regardless of whether those babies will be cared for or be able to live happy lives.")
Wow, killing babies. How humane.
And you don't know whether they'll have good lives or not. There are 2 million couples waiting to adopt.
And our planet is not over-populated, if you brought everyone to Texas, they could all have 1 acre of land.
Go pro-life!
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I'm not going to go through a pregnancy for a couple I don't know. I feel for them, really, but I'm not putting my body through that just to make some strangers happy.
I think Texas has around two hundred million acres, which would not be enough to give every person in the US, let alone the world, their own acre.
LadyBaird: As someone who's worked with kids in the foster-care system, I can tell you that so many children are not adopted because 1) Many families wanting to adopt want an infant. A greater portion of infants in foster-care that come eligible for adoption are adopted versus the number of older children eligible for adoption.
I don't know where Texas comes into it, but I think if you divide the entire land area of the planet(1.5x10^9km^2) by the current total planetary population (about 6.5x10^9), you get something like five acres each. Of course, that's including all the uninhabitable stuff like deserts, jungles, barren rocky wastelands, that radioactive mess around Chernobyl, frozen tundra, volcanic areas, earthquake zones, etc.livable land area, I'd be most interested in the result.
I don't know who´s more ridiculous of the two. This guy ignores that many couples waiting to adopt are not precisely saints. Moreover, that they are waiting to adopt white, healthy and cute babies, not sick, minority and ugly ones. Problem with overpopulation is not just space, BUT ALSO RESOURCES. And the notion of space is not limited to the physical one. Living in a place where certain rules apply and needs some bureaucracy implies that the world is UNEQUALLY DISTRIBUTED. What if the land turns out to be a dessert or an inhabitable place?.
2'd. The truth is, it's not so much population as it is piss-poor distribution of resources by their stewards. The extra squeebounce is for using a power phrase (baby-killing) in order to serve one's point, which is VERY fundamental to the fundie stereotype
First: you couldn't fit a tenth of the earth's population in Texas, even shoulder-to-shoulder. Hell, China couldn't hold the entire human population. You also have no concept of "available resources."
Guess what shit hole. An average person needs about 5 acres of land. And then there's the other animals and plants and stuff that live here too. And then there's housing, growing food, resources. How can you not think about this stuff?
Everyone has pretty much nailed this post to the wall, so I'll just add that it is the fucking hypocrisy of the anti-abortion movement that makes me so furious. I can respect people who protest abortion because of sincere beliefs, but they lose all my respect with these constant fucking lies .
You frown at killing a clump of cells, but probably think nothing of gunning down a fully grown adult for any religious/political reason. The hypocrisy is strong with this one.
xMinionX: "Pro-life does not equal fundie. This really shouldn't be here. Yeah, he's not too bright, but there's far worse here."
Let's see...
Being pregnant for nine months does not equal twenty minutes of surgery, ergo adoption is NOT an "alternative to abortion." I'm adopted. I've spent my entire life writing UNKNOWN on medical history forms, and figuring I must have done something horrible for my own mother to discard me, and feeling like a second class citizen because I have no right to my own identity. You don't know what you're talking about, and you need to shut up.
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I think Texas has around two hundred million acres, which would not be enough to give every person in the US, let alone the world, their own acre.
I'm ignoring all the crap about Texas and the 2 million couples waiting to adopt in the hopes that masumi will answer me this question:
If you think killing babies is 'inhumane'(and to be honest, I'm against 3rd trimester abortions), what would you say if there was actual PROOF that the birthing process would kill mom or baby? Let 'em both die? Well mommy's still going to heaven, assuming she's Wendy WASP from Witchita, but baby....he's off to hell! Actually, even if aborted he's off to hell in Cloud Cuckooland but that's besides the point
@ Laurel
If you ever read this, I want you to know that my heart goes out to you. I have seen my own daughters, who are all adopted, struggle with the issues you described. You seem to have a lot of questions that need answering; valid questions that may never be answered.
While there may not be answers, there is a response to your questions. The response is that, whatever the past was, you are alive right now, and being alive is a wonderful thing. You have the potential to make something good out of the tragedies of the past. Your life is valuable, and every day you live is a testimony to your value.
Best wishes to you.
I'd rather not have to live in Texas, thank you very much.
Seriously, though, must we repeat for the millionth time that abortion is not about killing babies? That's called infanticide, and you bet your fat ass that that IS a crime. In civilised societies, anyway.
No one is killing babies. You are an idiot.
And while there are 2 million couples waiting to adopt, that doesn't seem to do anything about the millions of children who are either abused by their parents, or are starving to death.
Your thing about Texas is incorrect. As it has already been pointed out, Texas does not have 6 billion acres . To fit everyone in the world into Texas, you would need to squeeze everyone in with a population density equal to New York City.
Also, you have to keep in mind that not everyone lives in a dense city; a lot of people own quite a bit of land out in the country. This reduces the amount of land that can be used for agriculture and stuff. While there is currently enough food for everyone in the world to eat plenty, many people in places like Africa and North Korea simply don't have access to it; another thing to note is that food isn't the only necessity . There are still issues like sanitation and diseases, most of which plague the most densely populated areas in the world. Another thing you'll notice is that these very same densely populated areas are very poor . Hence, they couldn't afford birth control/abortion, but they still can't afford to take care of their children, nor can they afford health care and sanitation-related stuff like toilets and good sewage treatment systems.
Calling yourselves "pro-life" is hypocrisy. You're about as pro-life as I'm a Martian. You only care about power, power, power! One hundred bucks says you're in favour of the death penalty and are pro-war and think a raped woman should be forced to give birth.
"if you brought everyone to Texas, they could all have 1 acre of land."
Where they would immediately starve to death unless everyone started farming, stalling scientific progress and sending us back to the Dark Ages, but you probably want that, so I guess that's okay with you.
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