[In response to a question about why people who have no knowledge of Jesus would be condemned to hell...]
Insofar as the native Americans are concerned, let us not forget that during the great flood of Noah's day, ALL, except those 8 who were aboard the ark, were destroyed! This means that the native Americans were the direct descendants of Noah, and at some point in time their forefathers were exposed to the TRUTH which would have saved them, had they elected, of their own volition, to heed and obey.
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What a cop out! Didn't Jeebus say that you could only get to the Father through him? That cuts Noah out of the picture completely. So, if you actually read the BuyBull, Native Americans before approximately 33CE were apparently screwed no matter what kind of fancy lies you want to make up to make your version of xianity more palatable.
This means that the native Americans were the direct descendants of Noah, and at some point in time their forefathers were exposed to the TRUTH which would have saved them, had they elected, of their own volition, to heed and obey.
Seeing as how people six thousand years ago generally had no idea how large the world was, it is easy to understand how some of them would arrive at the conclusion that a large flood was world-wide.
The Founding fathers arrived there in the seventeenth century, which means GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS before. Moreover, the very arrival doesn´t imply that they have the tools to preach(language, for example?). And it´s up to you to explain why only Sem's descendants, apparently, were aware of the knowledge of God, let alone the knowledge of Jesus, many, many thousands of years later.
"This means that the native Americans were the direct descendants of Noah, and at some point in time their forefathers were exposed to the TRUTH which would have saved them, had they elected, of their own volition, to heed and obey."
Hey Temp, so far in two posts you have proven no knowledge of judaism, Romans, and American Indians. That is scary enough, but the fact you want to discuss these things and show your ignorance is truly frightening.PS So far you have defended the holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis, and the extermination of the Indians by the white men. If I was Jesus (the Prince of Peace, God of Love), I would tell you to shut up and sit down, racist.
The Native Americans didn't like the white settlers forcing their beliefs on them...they didn't understand the whites, and didn't like the whites forcing them to conform and be white or else be killed / moved to crappy land for the sake of making plantations....before white settlers, if I remember correctly from history class....
Back To The Future Award, anyone??
Some Native American tribes managed to come up with similar stories to Bible stories before white settlers, if I remember correctly from history class.... So the Christian view is that an entire race of people could be condemed to Hell because thousands of years ago their ANCESTORS lost their faith?
What entire race? You don't believe in the flood so those races don't count, and the Native American races were not all killed obviously, as they still exist today. Not saying no one tried to wipe them out, but they weren't entirely successful if they did.
Why would people who have no knowledge of Jesus be condemned? Who the hell knows. I thought the point was God was supposed to be an omniscient creator and would therefore know each person before their birth as well as after. Christians who try to explain the logistics of omniscience are on a fool's mission. Better to say they just don't know than claim that they do.
For those of you who like to mock Christians...maybe you should at least become familiar with the Bible so you can debate us with some knowledge! I will give you a little
Truth
Red hunter? I don't mean to sound ignorant, but what boards? And if that is the case..why don't you come onto Rapture Ready and debate us head to head instead of taking our testimonies out of context and mocking them on this website. Personally I never knew you existed untill you mocked one of my testimonies...So who is the troll? I still am wondering what enjoyment you get by mocking us? But I can see that I am upsetting you by posting on this website...sorry...but by mocking me you invited me...and I have to tell you, I spread your website to other Rapture ready people, so you may get other visitors!
If you are Temple messenger, then you're damn straight I mock you. I mock you and all your ilk, using God and the Scriptures as a "hide-behind" for your racism and spewing of bigotry and hatred. Apologizing for Nazi brutality and the extermination of the American Indian as justified by the use of the "God of Love" and "Prince of Peace" as sponsors of murderous thugs disgraces all Christians.
Assuming that all of the things you spouted off are even true (let's pretend...), why would God damn the great-grandchildren of the people that rejected him?
That's more than capricious, that's assinine.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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