I have prayed many times that God would do whatever it takes to bring my children to a decision for Christ. I would rather see them on a death bed and saved than alive and well heading for a lost eternity. No one LIKES to see suffering but as a Christian father I know what is better at any cost to the flesh.
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Many, if not most, of the things that occupy the time of human adults are games...religion, politics, sex, the money chase, and so on.
Raising healthy children is about the only thing in my book that *isn't* a game.
This sickens me.
It's more of that 'death isn't bad, 'cause yer goin' to Jesus' mindset. It gives me the chills. I see it expressed frequently on Christian sites, often in relation to apologetics about all the killings attributed to god and to Christians. It's only a hair away from the more loopy and violent Islamic mindsets, and comes from the same ancient violent tradition, IMO.
Okay, I get that you would like your children to reap the rewards that your beliefs say will be yours if you accept Jesus as your Personal Savior and yadda, yadda, yadda, but seriously, can you not see how such a mindset is destructive?
If this is what your 'morality' boils down to, it's in sore need of adjustment. Perhaps you should not have had chilren at all, you know--just in case they decided NOT to be Christians.
To give credit where it's due, if salvation makes as much of a difference as it's claimed, it would be worth any price to them. However, it's better off that "Whatever it takes" doesn't involve being brought to within an inch of their life.
The comment is still spooky as anything.
The problem with Majorgrace2's belief system is that it pretty much justifies any kind of abuse against his children as long as he feels he's doing it for the safety of their immortal souls.
@Truth
I would love to express my opinions on Rapture Ready. However, a logical argument is the last thing I would expect from people who believe their god will whisk them away to heaven any time now.
Read your Bible. Jesus told his disciples he would return within their lifetimes .
Face it, you've been stood up.
No one LIKES to see suffering but as a Christian father I know what is better at any cost to the flesh. Andrea Yates reincarnated.
Vote + 1 for Anrea Yates award, +1 call to CPS. I would also like to express my hope that Majorgrace2 dies suddenly before he can harm his children any further, or at the very least is rendered sterile by some sort of freak microwave accident so that when his children are taken away he can't make any more. And "Truth", be careful what you wish for.
So, like Avi Koshner, who killed his own kids because they were not going to be raised like Jewish Orthodox. Listen man, they´re not chattel. That´s not love, that´s tyranny.
Well, In that case, maybe you could just beat it in to them? I mean, You'd rather see them on a death bed and saved. Make it happen. better at any cost to the flesh. U are on f***ked father.
Logical and Rapture Ready don't even look right in the same sentence. That place is for people who don't have the balls to actually go live in a cave somewhere, waiting for the visit of beings who are never coming. don't you see that you RR people are only a shade of grey different from the Heavens Gate nuts?
As to majorlyfuckedupdad; Ever heard of the Menendez brothers?
No one LIKES to see suffering...
Really? Seems like fundies revel in it. Why else would they be orgasming over how all the unbelievers are going to suffer in Hell? Why else is this father praying for his gawd to kill his children if that's what will convert them to fundies?
Look, majorgrace2, just drown yourself in the bathtub before you hurt anyone, ok?
I'm not an American. So could someone please explain the use of the word 'rapture' in the American sense? I surmise that it must mean something like 'straight-jacket' or 'padded-cell', or possibly just 'in need of long term, serious psychiatric treatment'.
Are any of my guesses right?
I don't really think this one is particularly fundie. Now, if he had mentioned being the one responsible for putting his kids in their deathbeds, maybe. As it stands, though, he just sounds like a devoted, well-meaning but misdirected father.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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