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The Constitution does not say freedom from Religion, nor is there an expressed right of disbelief or athiesm. The Constitutional right is freedom of Religion includng the public expression thereof. Atheists however do not have a protected right since they claim no God or religion. Therefore the Constitution does protect Religion, but not the rights of atheists under the Bill of Rights for freedom of Religion.

RoyWM, Christian Forums 15 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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They call me V

So you are saying it's not allowed to be an atheist over there?
Either you american atheists are extremely unlucky to have such rules, or you are extremely unlucky to have such mind-blowing idiots on your soil XD

1/8/2008 8:41:29 AM

agentCDE

Freedom of religion includes freedom FROM. Fuck off.

1/8/2008 10:23:32 AM

BrandonL337

the rating confuses me why isn't it higher

5/15/2008 10:06:00 AM

Cynic

@They call me V

Its the second one.

5/18/2009 2:57:00 PM



Oh so NOW atheism isn't a religion to you people.

3/28/2012 3:21:56 PM

Swede

So Freedom of Speech means you are not allowed to refrain from speaking?

3/29/2012 12:31:08 AM

Justanotheratheist

Nice try, but no. Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion, knucklehead.


3/29/2012 1:08:12 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Roy ain't real bright.

8/15/2012 6:09:54 AM

Canadiest

They think if they keep this claim up they can legally stifle the Atheist voice or at the very least convince religious people that Atheists are to be ignored and have no right to their views.

A proper understanding of the Constitution is something else they'd like to keep out of the schools. There is no way one can honestly read the Constitution and not know that Atheists have the same rights.

It's sad that many call themselves Constitutional Experts, some even having Constitutional Law Degrees, then lie about or misrepresent it with shit like that.

8/15/2012 7:01:39 AM

Anon-e-moose

If the Constitution guarantees 'Freedom of Religion', then by definition it also guarantees Freedom FROM Religion too.

In essence what that part of the Constitution says is this: 'We - the government - don't tell you who/how to worship, you - 'believers' - don't have the fucking right to tell the government how to run the country.

...unless you want a 'state religion'; also a monarchy, which is what the whole 'War of Independence' thingy was all about; rebellion & splitting away from Britain, the Church of England, and it's monarch at that time. Okay then, Roy. Hand over the keys of the White House/Capitol Building/Supreme Court; also the 'Football' (the case-like device containing the launch/authentication codes to the biggest nuclear arsenal on the planet) to our Prime Minister David Cameron. Also replace your Stars & Stripes with the Union Flag. And scrap your Dollars, and replace such with Pounds Sterling, with Queen Elizabeth II's portrait on them. And accept our Church of England, and it's non Fundamentalist doctrine.

...oh, and also you must accept our subscribing with the European Declaration of Human Rights, which guarantees 'Freedom of Religion' - and Freedom FROM Religion.

...what's that, you say? You won't? Well, then. you don't have the right to think about making your claim.

I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning Smells like... victory.

8/15/2012 7:57:28 AM



All athrists are honorary members of the Church of the FSM. Mentioning Chef Boyardee , IPU, or pirates is optional.

An Ahoy matey once a year is appreciated .

8/15/2012 4:53:00 PM

Ebon

The courts would beg to differ.

8/16/2012 10:23:47 PM



"The Constitutional right is freedom of Religion includng the public expression thereof."

Yeah! All hail Satan!

11/7/2012 3:38:12 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Roy is almost as well versed in the Constitution as Obama.

1/12/2013 9:38:58 AM

Dr.Shrinker

So you would have no objection if a Muslim school principal ordered all the students, including your, to face Mecca and pray to Allah during the school day, would you? After all, the children are free to believe and practice however their families instruct them outside of school, but when they are in school they have to follow the principal's rules.

What?!? You WOULDN'T be fine with that?

Well too bad! Its not like the US Constitution grants you freedom from religion you know!

1/12/2013 10:10:15 AM
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