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Does God evolve?

New ideas are just that: new ideas. Evolution is a new idea, but I don't think that it has been properly thought out. For example, consider God. God changes all the time, but does evolution apply to Him? The fact is that it does not.

"Wait," I hear you say "God doesn't reproduce, so evolution can't apply to Him." Well, that is interesting, isn't it? The one who created all things can't experience what He created. It's like God creating a rock that He can't lift: something doesn't make sense and it's not God.

What if God did reproduce, do you think that evolution would apply to Him then? Would His children gradually change so that they are nothing like Him? The problem with this is that you would then be saying that there are people more evolved than God. Does that make sense? No.

Gottservant, Christian Forums 29 Comments [5/30/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Redhunter

YOU don't make any fucking sense. The theory of evolution is not meant to be reconciled with your creation myth. Your god can evolve about as readily as it can visit the drive-thru at Taco Bell, it can't.

As for answers to your random questions;
1) evolution doesnt apply to made-up charectors.
2)You didn't hear me say anything.
3) No, it is NOT interesting.

Your problems began when trying to look at evolution through your creationism/christianity coloured glasses.
Trying to figure out how evolution would affect god is like trying to figure out how Santa flies through the sky without hitting a 747.

5/30/2007 11:32:15 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

God DID evolve - from the psychotic warlord of the OT to the passive-aggressive described in the NT. But, a lot of people are more moral and more loving than either of these characters. So, yes, a lot of us have evolved beyond the primitive characterizations of god.

5/30/2007 11:47:42 AM

anevilmeme

The highlights:

\"Evolution is a new idea\"

No, its 150 yrs old.

\"I don't think that it has been properly thought out.\"

It is very well thought out. As new and better data has become available the theory has, dare I say it, evolved.

\"What if God did reproduce, do you think that evolution would apply to Him then?\"

Read your fucking bible, according to the story he did reproduce, he had a son named Jesus, prehaps you've heard of him?

\"Would His children gradually change so that they are nothing like Him?\"

Again, its only a story but if you read the whole bible you'll notice Jesus isn't a real motherfucker like his old man. Unlike daddy he doesn't flood the planet, destroy cities or command his followers to commit genecide.

5/30/2007 11:51:46 AM

mrsyoungie

\"What if God did reproduce, do you think that evolution would apply to Him then? Would His children gradually change so that they are nothing like Him?\"
Didn't that already happen? Compare and contrast OT God with NT Jesus.

5/30/2007 12:07:55 PM

Freboy

We have two conflicting theories then.

And the winner is...

5/30/2007 1:00:09 PM

Ambrielle

No, no it doesn't make sense. Nothing you have ever said makes sense.

PS. I can't believe this person is Australian.

5/30/2007 1:19:42 PM

Matilde

To begin with, there are not proof of its existance, let alone what he is like. And talking about reproduction...........Virgin Mary rings you a bell?

5/30/2007 1:26:33 PM

NonProphet

Stop pretending you know what evolution is, Gottservant.
Let's say, for the sake of this exercise, that your god was a real, living natural creature.
Evolution still doesn't rapidly alter a single creature in a lifetime (no matter how long that life) it changes a species over multiple generations. So no, it wouldn't apply UNLESS there were a long series of beings descended from the first god, each having to adapt to their environment. But that would make you a polytheist.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. If you believe in an all-powerful god, naturally you must concede that the usual laws of nature do not apply to it; therefore, even if evolution were just like your Pokemon games, it wouldn't necessarily apply to God.

Holy crap, that was a much longer post than I intended.

5/30/2007 2:09:36 PM

JustinGG

You're trying this thinking thing for the first time, aren't you?

5/30/2007 2:10:26 PM

Dot Comment

I'm sorry, but the Chewbacca Defense is not a valid debate tactic.

5/30/2007 2:36:06 PM



\"Does God make sense? No.\"

Fixed.

5/30/2007 3:00:49 PM

Marnanel

This is the most ridiculous thing.

Evolution is a new idea

Patently untrue.

consider God. God changes all the time

Don't you people know your own Bible?

The one who created all things can't experience what He created.

Well, yes, obviously. Why do you think that's a problem? Granted the Incarnation, God has some experience of what it's like to be a human creature. But even that doesn't mean that God knows what (say) menstruation is like. Does that mean you think God didn't create the female reproductive system?

5/30/2007 4:45:43 PM

Chan

God did reproduce, though: He made Adam and Eve in his image. They were his children, and we are his descendants. The whole Garden of Eden story is both a creation myth and a parable for the process of growing up.

5/30/2007 4:55:47 PM

Old Viking

A very provocative question, Gottservant, and one that many have pondered. Now please go watch cartoons.

5/30/2007 8:12:53 PM

papabear

Certainly God as a fictional character DOES evolve. Christians over the centuries have been adding, editing and changing the stories of God and Jesus.

5/30/2007 8:17:54 PM

Klaus

Gottservant - the most clueless person known to man. There are caterpillars that make more sense than him.

If there was a god, and that god was almighty, dontcha think it had a \"merge\"-spell like in the old Dungeon Keeper?

5/30/2007 8:54:25 PM

Osiris

I guess a 150 year old fact is still new when compared to the Jewish creation myth you all think is fact.

5/30/2007 10:34:51 PM

John

God changes all the time

This is a very minority opinion among Christians ...

5/31/2007 12:34:38 AM

Robin

Well, I agree with the last bit.

5/31/2007 2:08:23 PM

Wet Walnuts

Considering the other stupid things Gottservant has said, I can't really comment any further on this.

5/31/2007 2:47:11 PM

Mister Spak

\"God changes all the time,\"

I thought god was the same, yesterday, today and forever.

5/31/2007 3:58:07 PM

John

Does that make sense? No.

This whole friggin' post doesn't make sense.

6/1/2007 12:38:36 AM

Adrian

Anotherfundie who fails to understand that evolution isn't an ascension toward a fixed "superior creature"...

6/24/2007 5:43:12 AM

Mysteriously Anonymous Guy

This argument is not only wrong scientifically, it is so flawed theologically that it is tantamount to blasphemy.

7/23/2007 4:08:26 PM

Jim

We didn't say there was a God in the first place.

That would've been you.

7/23/2007 4:53:45 PM
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