(we can not move mountains.)
I would disagree and say the reason we don't see people moving mountains is due to the extreme lack of faith.
in other words lack of people asking or even believing that mountains can be moved.
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No, no, he's right. Remember on Dagobah when Luke said it was impossible to lift the X-Wing? Then Yoda is all "Size doesn't matter bitch, watch me." And the little guy lifted the fucking X-Wing! When Luke didn't have faith that it could be done. Cause it's not the size of the man with the faith, it's the size of the faith in the man.
Then Yoda is all "Size doesn't matter bitch, watch me." And the little guy lifted the fucking X-Wing!
And then told that bitch, "That's why you fuckin' fail."
I can move a mountain. Get me a permit, ten bulldozers, five tons of high explosives, and a demolitions crew.
Ah, but Yoda had faith in his ability to use the force, not faith in the force itself. There was no need to have "faith" in the force, since it was a proven concept - it did observable stuff in a repeatable manner, which Yoda had seen countless times. Luke didn't need to have faith in the force once it was proven to him - then all he needed to do was have faith in himself. [/nerd]
OK, move a mountain for me. Any mountain, even a little, foothill of a mountain. Do it under controlled conditions so that there can be no doubt that YOU, by the power of your God, actually moved the mountain. Do that and I will become a Christian.
Yet when I believed I tried to move things with my mind (gimme a break, huh? I was brainwashed for fuck's sake!), and since mountains went extinct in North Dakota some 80 years ago, I decided to move rocks, gravel, even bits of sand. I figure I'll start small, you know? Nothing. I believed my innocent and gullible ass off and I got nothin'.
This is another lie that somehow, people think is a true thing! How is it that in 2000 years, no one has done it? Nobody is that believing? IN two thousand years? I mean, no one would even have to see it or know who did it, either the person or the god. It would just happen, and it would have to be dealt with by the community at large. It would obviously be supernatural and thereby some sort of proof that supernatural actually happens, but it never has. Then why do people still preach this like it is true? Good fucking question, Redhunter, I wish I had a good answer for you, but alas I'm fresh out.
Even if it was possible - do you REALLY think God would be pleased when millions of people moving mountains around, fucking up the enviroment, changing the weather and probably using this skill ín warfare??
That piece of the book shouldn't be taken literaly. Duh.
So your answer is, we can move mountains, but we can't due to an extreme lack of faith?
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading something in a holy book about faith the size of a mustard seed...
This reminds me of my research design professor's lecture on falsifiability.
Doctors used to use leeches for all manner of ailments.
If the patient got better, they concluded it was because of the treatment.
If the patient got worse, they concluded it was because of the advanced nature of the disease, despite the good the treatment did.
So how can you tell how well the treatment works?
It's called mountaintop removal, and it's making the Appalachians in Eastern Kentucky disappear.
They cut off the top of the mountain to get to the coal buried underneath the stone, then they pour the waste material into the valleys. Eventually where there was a mountain and a valley, there is now a plain.
Or, if your god does exist (which I don't believe, but let's just say for argument's sake), maybe he likes the mountains where he put them. After all, you believe he created the planet, right? Maybe he put the mountains where they are for a reason. Maybe he likes them exactly where they are. Maybe trying to move them only pisses him off.
You seem to believe you can move mountains; how many have you shifted lately?
Unfortunately, that question won't work on fundies because they have that pesky "don't put god to the test" clause. Which roughly translates to "Well of course I could, but you have to promise never to go and look".
If faith were a power that allows for the altering of physical reality then God would have designed it so that only perfect minds would have that ability.
Problem is: No one is perfect.
(Except for me, but I guess you know that already.)
But Jesus said all you need is faith the size of a mustard seed. There's lots of people with that much faith. It's what keeps this page going. But if you have enough faith to center your life around, it's surely bigger than a mustard seed, and you still can't move a mountain without a lot of mining equipment- maybe it's all a bunch of crap.
Well, no, with enough time, resources and manpower, a mountain probably could be moved. It's just that we have much better things to do with our time.
Confused?
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