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The theory of gravity has never been invoked to justify mass murder, genocide or eugenics. Darwin's theory of evolution has. From Marx to Hitler, the men responsible for the greatest mass murders of the 20th century were avid Darwinists.

wizdum790, The Soapbox 48 Comments [5/30/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Osiris

Marx didn't kill anyone.

5/30/2007 10:32:51 PM

Broken Egg

Marx wasn't a mass murderer. Hell, the butchery of Stalin's reign (which I'm assuming must be how you figure Marx is responsible for a crapton of deaths) wasn't even done under a true Communist government. No such animal.

5/30/2007 10:41:20 PM

John

the men responsible for the greatest mass murders of the 20th century were avid Darwinists.

Even if this weren't self-invented baloney, which it is, so were the greatest scientists. So what?

The greatest mass murders of the 20th century were all white males. Should we outlaw them? Makes as much sense as Wizdum's statement.

5/31/2007 12:07:15 AM

cactaur

Excuse me, I would now like to invoke the theory of gravity for pushing wizdum790 off of a cliff.

5/31/2007 12:22:34 AM

Athar

Yeah Hitler never attempted to desroy any communist rallys or nothing. What the fuck does evolution have to do with MArx? Marx wasn't an avid darwinist and Hitler was a politcally extreme right winged christian sociopath. Further more to end the stupidity once and for all, it was not hitlers intention nor even his orders. He wanted to ship them all off to madagascar off all places(he wasn't a very bright man) It was Himmler the man in charge of the concentration camps who suggested the final solution. Hitler was a jerk, Marx a little bit too trusting of humanity but get your facts right fundys!

5/31/2007 12:36:55 AM

Durane

Hitler's eugenics ideas may have been based on Darwinism, but that doesn't change the validity of the theory of evolution. However, \"morally wrong\" the truth may be, it's still the truth.

5/31/2007 2:08:14 AM

Raewyn

@ Ambrielle: Right here. :)

5/31/2007 2:21:11 AM

Redhunter



An utter failure. Your post reminds me of a 'Mad-Lib' with crazy smeared all over it.

5/31/2007 6:55:46 AM

NonProphet

Marx: not a mass murderer, and wrote his manifesto 9 years before \"On the Origin of Species\" was published.

Hitler: professed Christian, believed himself to be doing God's will.

You fail.

5/31/2007 2:09:33 PM

John

Ambrielle and Raewyn FTW.

6/1/2007 12:30:11 AM

Nekhbet

Gravity has been used to commit murder, fenestration was a popular way to get rid of the opposition in Soviet Russia

6/3/2007 1:16:54 AM

CousinTed

\"The undermining of the existence of human culture by the destruction of its bearer seems in the eyes of a folkish philosophy the most execrable crime. Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent Creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.\" (Hitler 1943, 383)

\"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, . . . so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.\" (Hitler 1943, 214)

\"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord\" (Hitler 1943, 65).

You were saying, wizzy?

6/3/2007 2:43:02 AM

gunapithesunrose

the idea of natural selection is that it's natural. Natures the one that culls the herd not humans. For you to try and discredit evolution by claiming that some of it's followers used it to justify murder is a little hypocritical. Like you christians often down, us evolutionists should start claiming that Hitler and Stalin weren't 'true' evolutionist.

and why the fuck is Marx mentioned here? The guy was directly responsible for an genocide!

6/3/2007 2:53:52 AM



And what about the men responsible for the greatest mass murders BEFORE the 20th century?
Well, ok they weren't ALL christians... but I don't think there was any evolutionist either.

6/18/2007 8:18:22 AM

agentCDE

#269903: And don't forget that their own holy book paints their skygod as a murderous, spiteful, hateful, egotistical asshole of a madman. The Flood? Sodom? Ordering his own followers to kill EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING as they retook the promised land?

And, of course, he hasn't lifted a finger since those legendary times, for good or ill.

6/18/2007 12:26:19 PM

Mr. Saturday

"I believe my work is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." --Adolf Hitler

You lose.

10/17/2007 5:03:10 PM



The only reason you people don't think gravity is evil is because the people who wrote the bible understood gravity enough to not write anything monumentally wrong about it.

Because if people floated before the fall gravity would be a tool of Satan, and "only a theory," just like evolution by natural selection.

5/14/2008 8:32:45 PM

God

"The theory of gravity has never been invoked to justify mass murder, genocide or eugenics."

Religion, on the other hand, ...

*facepalm*

1/28/2009 11:44:32 AM

BrendanJD

I didn't know Marx could time travel.

I also didn't know that Hitler didn't burn origins of the species and rail against evolution every chance he got.

1/28/2009 12:42:45 PM



Because religion has never been used to justify mass murder, genocide or eugenics...

10/27/2010 12:27:12 PM

Swede

Hitler had "On the Origin of Species" burned. That's how much he liked Darwin.
Social Darwinism, sure, but that's to Evolution what fascism is to conservatism; a distant cousin. There might be some similar ideas at the core, but one of them (fascism / Social Darwinism) is seriously warped and sick.

10/27/2010 12:42:05 PM

Often Partisan

"Funny, I thought Marx was a...wait for it...Marxist"

don't forget he denied being one "all i know is that i am not a marxist"

Karl Marx was not responsible for any atrocities, okay. He could hardly be respnsible for mass murder in the 20th century when he died in 1883. Fuck off.

5/15/2012 12:29:54 PM

Canadiest

Marx wrote the concept of communism, it's important to note he didn't impliment it nor was it a marxist state in the end, many of Marx's ideas were not included.

Why won't Christians ever accept Hitlers Christianity? Because that would be admitting one raised in the church is completely capable of the worst things, because if they keep claiming this many will believe it. And it's working, I've seen many Atheists accept the "Hitler just used Christianity" or "Hitler pretended to earn their trust" scenarios.

Bullshit. The Priests do that themselves. Christianities entire history is marked with like atrocities, including your precious American sects. All Y'all, not one of you or your leaders have any higher moral ground. Christianity has been at the forefront of racial intolerance for every century of their existance.

You can't use Darwin for your scapegoat when your priests are blessing war machines to this day.

5/15/2012 4:11:54 PM
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