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Don't speak too soon. We have "freedom of religion" yet people have been expelled for praying in school, we're not allowed to use the name of Jesus in public prayers. We have "freedom of speech" yet if we speak up against gay rights, we are accused of "hate crimes".
God has blessed America and we're a great country but we're turning on God. What makes you think that he will continue to bless a country who has started to curse him? Without God's protection our country COULD fall. We could loose our freedoms to outside invaders. Or (more likely) we could give up our freedoms.

Opera Princess, CBH 43 Comments [5/31/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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John

We have \"freedom of religion\" yet people have been expelled for praying in school

You can't be expelled for praying in school. You can certainly be disciplined for praying while you're supposed to be in class learning, but that's an attendance issue, not a religious one. Likewise, you can probably get in trouble for annoying other students with your proselytizing if they complain about it. Now if the teacher starts leading prayers, that's illegal, because the teacher is a government employee on government property.

we're not allowed to use the name of Jesus in public prayers.

If it involves government property or government employees, that would be \"establishing religion\" - i.e., giving preferential treatment to Christianity.

We have \"freedom of speech\" yet if we speak up against gay rights, we are accused of \"hate crimes\".

Well, you'll probably be called a bigot - after all, the rest of us have freedom of speech, too. But speaking up against gay rights isn't a crime. You can only be accused of a hate crime if you actually commit a crime, such as physically attacking someone. Freedom of speech doesn't include freedom of assault.

5/31/2007 5:28:48 PM

NonProphet

Whoo, I just read that entire thread.
It's a big steaming pile of crazy, rife with 'One World Order' conspiracy, free-range Godwins, unverifiable (and unreported by any news media) 3rd-person claims of persecution, and distortion of actual court cases to make enforcement of the establishment clause seem like persecution.
Oh, and lots of \"Rapture\" stuff.

It's like RaptureReady v2.0.

5/31/2007 6:51:33 PM

Old Viking

Your God has already abandoned us. He left Bush as a symbol of his displeasure.

5/31/2007 9:05:00 PM

√ėyvind

Copy-paste, anyone?

Without God's protection our country COULD fall.
Oh, wow.

Or (more likely) we could give up our freedoms.
PATRIOT ACT, you utter moron.

5/31/2007 9:28:26 PM

Flatworm

Tune of \"If You're Happy and You Know It\"

If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up
If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up
You don't have to be a twat
Just because you don't know squat:
If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up

If you want to be psychotic stay at home
If you want to be psychotic stay at home
If your lunacy is chronic
Or you're totally neurotic
And you want to be psychotic stay at home

5/31/2007 9:36:18 PM

Professor M

Lying for Jesus, definitely.

5/31/2007 9:59:07 PM

shriekback

\"We're accused of commiting hate crimes because we don't want fags to have rights!\"

Damn straight you are, fucking bigot

6/1/2007 12:04:43 AM

MrBadAxe

@NonProphet: Seriously, that needs to be done to every post. XD

6/1/2007 12:18:08 AM

Adrian


6/1/2007 1:26:32 PM

Sideshow Bob

@Adrian: ...or politics, or history, or reality in general. Opera Princess has an early Post of the Week nomination from me.

6/1/2007 2:34:02 PM

Feminazi

we're not allowed to use the name of Jesus in public prayers.

And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room (or closet.) and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. (Matthew 6:5-6 RSV).
Jesus dosen't want you to pray in public anyway.

3/19/2008 6:50:46 PM

Florian

"Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose."

We all have something of freedom of speech and religion. It doesn't cover infringing on other people's freedoms, though.

12/15/2008 3:02:31 AM

LDM

Your freedom ends where the next person's freedom begins.

Freedom doesn't always mean "I can do what I want". It also means I am solely responsible for everything I do or say.

And it means you have to accept that others have views that you don't like or agree with, and have every right to those views, as long as they're not infringing on others rights.

You are free to believe what you want, and voice those beliefs, but you cannot, in any circumstance, infringe on the rights of others, even if you don't agree with their beliefs/way of life. Why do your rights supersede those of a gay person's? They work and pay taxes in this country, probably more than you do.

Christianity is still the dominant force in this country, and will be for generations to come. As a non-christian, I've had my rights trampled on more than you can ever know. I've been bullied, harassed & berated by people I thought were my friends. I've had to keep my choice to leave the church a secret from my still practicing family members, who are allowed to openly practice and state their beliefs as loudly and often as they like. I have a gay brother, who is a wonderful person in every way, shape & form, and a cousin who is actively campaigning to practically have gays rounded up & put in camps. No wonder my family never gets together anymore.

I saw a supervisor drive a muslim coworker to quit, because he thought her headscarf violated the dress code (he was just a racist prick) but knew he couldn't officially fire her, so he just bullied her every day. She was one of the nicest, funniest people I ever met, too. We also had an Amish coworker, and a few people grumbled about her being allowed to dress according to her religion.


11/10/2010 7:28:25 AM

A

Anon-e-moose

"Don't speak too soon. We have "freedom of religion" yet people have been expelled for praying in school, we're not allowed to use the name of Jesus in public prayers. We have "freedom of speech" yet if we speak up against gay rights, we are accused of "hate crimes"."

(*YAWN*) So?

"God has blessed America"

Care to point out in the Bible where it even mentions a country called 'America'? Remember: if it's not mentioned in the Bible, it's not relevant to your beliefs. Therefore you & your country, religion-wise, is irrelevant.

"and we're a great country"

O RLY? The facts prove otherwise:



"but we're turning on God"

You dirty buggers.

"What makes you think that he will continue to bless a country who has started to curse him?"

Actually, your 'God' couldn't give a fuck for you & the US (and instead favours my country, the superior UK), and I can prove it:



'God is British - because we never get any fucking earthquakes, tornadoes or hurricanes in Britain. And Jesus is British: he was born in Bethnal Green.'

-Al Murray (Pub Landlord)

"Without God's protection our country COULD fall. We could loose our freedoms to outside invaders. Or (more likely) we could give up our freedoms."

Oh, that's already happened, and without a single shot fired, never mind an ICBM. As a result of the policies of your God Emperor of Fucking Up, George Dumbya Bush, your country was financially propped up - and it's debts bought up - by an 'outside invader'. Say hello to your new landlord, fundies:



Better start learning Mandarin. And Atheism, Opera Princess. Where is your God now?

11/10/2010 8:33:28 AM

GigaGuess

Don't speak too soon. We have "freedom of religion" yet people have been expelled for praying in school...
Yes, teachers will expell kids who bow their heads, and pray quietly to themselves. No, wait, it's the ones who insist on trying to get the whole class to pray, disrupting the lesson who get reprimanded. If a Muslim studen demanded the class halt for them, and pulled out a prayer rug, you would be baying for blood, so cut the persecution complex.

...we're not allowed to use the name of Jesus in public prayers.
In the same way that you can't use Allah, Xenu, Thor, Odin, FSM or the Invisible Pink Unicorn, sure. This is not exclusive to you.

We have "freedom of speech" yet if we speak up against gay rights, we are accused of "hate crimes".
However, if anyone dares question your dogma, we are persecuting you, and by not kowtowing to you, we are apparently singling you out. Here's the thing. It's not disliking homosexuals that's bad. it's not even saying you dislike homosexuals that is bad. It's when you are actively trying to withhold and strip rights from us that is bad.

God has blessed America and we're a great country but we're turning on God. What makes you think that he will continue to bless a country who has started to curse him?
Dubya was a pretty big holy roller. Under his watch, not only the U.S., but most of the world was plunged into a recession not seen since the 30s. It's not God who makes a country prosper, but it's leader and citizens.

Without God's protection our country COULD fall. We could loose our freedoms to outside invaders. Or (more likely) we could give up our freedoms.
Please. Wrap it in a flag, and call it patriotism, and you'll start putting on your own chains. Evidenced by you guys' stunning support of the Patriot Act.

11/10/2010 8:56:26 AM

Swede

I call bullshit on people being expelled for a mere prayer in school. I have probably prayed in school, and I went to a secular school in Sweden.
Sorry, we did have a state religion at that time... That might explain it.

There must have been some aggravating circumstances, like the pupil in question disrupted the class, or tried to force his classmates to join in, or mocked someone who didn't pray.

Of course you should not use the name of Jesus in public prayers. He said himself, in that Word of God book, that prayers should be private; only hypocrites pray out loud.

If you want to infringe on other people's human rights, you have to be prepared for severe criticism.

America is not even mentioned in the Bible. You've only started to curse now? We've been cursing for thousands of years, and we have one of the world's highest standards of living.

Those Founding Fathers, who gave you many of those rights, were very careful to keep religion out of each and every state document.
Isn't it a bit embarasing that a Swede knows your Constitution and Ammendments better than you do, little princess?

11/10/2010 9:12:19 AM

Quantum Mechanic

"yet people have been expelled for praying in school"

[citation needed]

Lie much?

2/14/2012 5:06:07 PM

Danielle

No one has ever been expelled from their school for praying.
You want religious freedoms, fine. But don't restrict others' freedoms with your religion.

2/16/2012 4:41:53 PM
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