Quote# 25899

If true Christians had the power in the U.S. there would be so fewer secular laws.

Since they are not, we have so many laws for so many things that shouldn't have to be, that it is almost insane!

Non-Christians can never understand the Lord's teaching of true freedom through obedience to His New Testament commandments. Non-Christians see obedience to His teaching as kind of miserable slavery. They do not see the true slavery of endless secular laws from the result of a society in rebellion against the Lord.

Stinker, Christian Forums 41 Comments [5/31/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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And that is bad how?

5/31/2007 1:04:59 PM


The Bible did lead to a kind of miserable slavery. They called it serfdom in the Middle Ages. Then just slavery. And no one enforcing the systems cared about the misery of them.

5/31/2007 1:09:43 PM

Doctor Whom

Yeah, let's bring back the New Testament commandments. No divorce. No gold, pearls, or designer dresses for women. Give to anyone who asks you. If someone presses you into service, do double what is demanded. I wonder how soon it will be before you start screaming for a return of that nasty old secular society.

5/31/2007 1:12:11 PM


That's Orwellian that is.

5/31/2007 1:12:39 PM


True Christians have been in power long before and, unless they have allowed raping, stealing or crimes in the net, I don't see what's your point. What we have done and well, is separating religion from politics, and honestly, sincere Christian(no theocracy fans like you, or even you too in the very bottom), muslims, atheist, buddists and Jewish alike are more or less happy.

5/31/2007 1:37:28 PM


Freedom through obedience? Double plus ungood.
I mean, evil secular laws that allow everyone his or her own pursuit of happiness, in any way that won't harm others too much.

5/31/2007 1:46:23 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Great screen name! \"true freedom through obedience\" Yep, that's stinkin' thinkin', for sure.

5/31/2007 1:48:07 PM

Mr Smith

Ah the freedom to do as you are told, it's the american dream! :)

5/31/2007 2:12:13 PM


\"Freedom through slavery\" award?

5/31/2007 2:13:46 PM


Most law makers in the US are Christian so I guess you must mean fundamentalists, in which case nice job getting elected.

5/31/2007 2:15:54 PM


This is so fucking stupid, I don't even have a witty remark to make. *sob*

5/31/2007 2:27:36 PM


\"New testament commandments\"...?

The only ones I know of are:

1. Know thyself. [Understand who and what you really are.]
2. Don't lie.
3. Don't treat your fellow humans like shit.

5/31/2007 2:34:04 PM


\"Non-Christians can never understand the Lord's teaching of true freedom through obedience to His New Testament commandments.\"

No non-deluded person who can operate a dictionary would speak of \"true freedom through obedience.\"

5/31/2007 3:06:41 PM


I wonder if you think the 10 Commandments and \"New Testament commandments\" are the same thing?

Regardless, instituting a theocracy would result in disaster. Remember that whole First Amendment? Yea, that's part of what this nation was founded on. Deal with it.

5/31/2007 3:45:47 PM

Mister Spak

We need all these laws to keep the fundies under control. They have a real talent for thinking of evil things to do that there is no law against, because it never occurred to any normal person that someone would do this thing.

5/31/2007 3:49:01 PM


If true Christians had the power in the U.S. there would be so fewer secular laws

When fundies say stuff like this, they usually mean they want more laws to enforce their particular brand of morality. Fundies rarely want to remove laws from the books.

5/31/2007 3:54:13 PM


Freedom Is \"do what I say.\" and Slavery is \"do what you want.\"

I had it all backwards all this time.

5/31/2007 7:41:00 PM

Old Viking

It's a bummer, Stinker, but we were founded as a secular nation. I mean, whaddayagonnado?

5/31/2007 8:51:21 PM

Darth Wang

Freedom is Slavery award

5/31/2007 8:54:39 PM


Soooo...freedom is spending my life worshipping Jesus, then I get an eternity of...worshipping Jesus. What?

5/31/2007 9:14:52 PM


\"Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's\"

Jesus didn't want a theocracy, just for people to get along and stop being asses to eachother. To set an example, not embarass him by committing atrocities in his name.

5/31/2007 9:33:47 PM

D Laurier

Ah, Freedom is slavery and Slavery is freedom,
Its fundie logic

5/31/2007 10:17:38 PM


Yes, but does the New Testament regulate the interstate sale of cabbage? I didn't think so.

5/31/2007 10:47:10 PM


Closest to 1984 award.

5/31/2007 10:56:11 PM


in a way, the \"fewer secular laws\" would be accurate

there would just be one:

\"Do what we think the Bible says that God wants you to do, or else.\"

5/31/2007 11:04:31 PM

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