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I have no suggestions on what the Cheneys should do in this situation, but I can tell you what I did.

I have a gay daughter and have been loving and accepting of her and her partner, but not of their lifestyle. We have made clear our opinions, but my wife and I do not make life uncomfortable for them because of our opinions.

When they announced that they were going to try and get pregnant, we sat them down and explained our position. We explained why we believed that children should have a mother and a father and told them that, should they go though with this, we would sue for custody of our grandchild. We assured them that living in the South that we had a better than even chance of winning.

Though they were not happy with our decision, they still visited and were welcomed and we have always been welcomed at their home. They thought of moving elsewhere but didn't like any of the places with more liberal laws. (A lesson in how liberalism ruins a place) It has now been eight years and still no babies.

MEGoody, freerepublic 204 Comments [5/31/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Dana

I'm not only human, I'm transgendered. The only good thing about the story above is that the gay children have parents just like they expected. It is my one fear that when I come out to my parents that they will accept me, and I would have wasted all those years thinking they would hate me.

I'm praying for babies. Shame on you for your control over your children.

6/5/2007 11:49:47 PM

Lauren

What a stupid asshole. His daughter is a fool for not moving. Or at least marrying a gay man, using his sperm, thus allowing her girlfriend, random gay friend, and her to give her family and "the South" the finger.

6/21/2007 10:02:53 AM

safflower

*sigh* what an ass clown. I'm ashamed to be from the South (even more than I already was)

6/21/2007 1:52:24 PM

Beccs

Yeah, that's "accepting".

So much for the unconditional love of parents! You make me sick.

6/21/2007 10:19:18 PM

Yagno

@#261097: perhaps you should explain your point of view to MEGoody.

I'm sure that they'll welcome you with open arms and thank you for your frankness. Oh, and be sure and tell them both that you wholeheartedly believe that the penalty described in Leviticus 20:13 should be carried out on their daughter.

I'm sure that they won't mind.

6/21/2007 10:25:25 PM

Disgusted

Shows how much you love your children.
And thanks, I live in a very clean, wealthy liberal area (Shows how liberalism helps a place).

6/27/2007 4:28:50 PM

Jazzy

What a cunt. If that's their idea of "loving and accepting" I'd hate to see their version of hateful bigotry.

7/23/2007 5:49:29 PM

Hi_It's_Me

Note: This post was authored by one Between the Lines, and is a response to a post by MEGoody. The formatting on the page makes it appear that MEGoody is responsible, though he actually isn't.

Also note that Between the Lines has provided some contact information. Good luck, upallnite!

8/2/2007 7:00:51 PM

Hi_It's_Me

Due to the fact that I am unable to edit my previous post, I will post my clarification here: upallnite posted a comment that he was going to try to find MEGoody's contact information, and I assumed it was a recent comment because it was on the first page.

8/2/2007 7:04:36 PM

Jim

We explained why...we would sue them for custody of our grandchild.

You are the epitome of fucktard-ery. I truly wish I could help your daughters.

To get away from bastards like you.

8/3/2007 12:51:24 AM

Jim

Sorry, MEGoody, not you.

That "Between the Lines" guy, who actually wrote this. The to: was to "MEGoody," not the from line.

IP address? Meh. I still say the physical addr. is better- much harder to change, assuming normal people don't know how to use regedit.

8/3/2007 1:00:31 AM

Detrs

This post makes me angrier every time I see it.

8/3/2007 2:29:30 AM

Jess

@UberLutheran - I'd object if you bitchslapped MEGoody because he didn't make this post. The post is addressed TO MEGoody and is actually by 'Between the Lines'. Someone needs to change it if possible.

8/3/2007 9:51:46 AM

Stürmen

Your poor, poor daughter. Really it's a shame that she clearly loves you so much in spite of what you have done to her life. You stole her happiness because of a belief. An ancient belief at that and one without any proof or measure of validation.

Beyond that, I'm not entirely certain how to word my response.

8/7/2007 3:20:11 PM

Alena

It may be that the daughter's girlfriend isn't able to become pregnant, or simply doesn't want to be pregnant. That's not saying that she doesn't want a child, but hell, the idea of me becoming pregnant makes me die a little inside. So that may be it.

Either way, Between The Lines is an absolute asshole. My mother always hammered into me the concept of unconditional love. When you're a family, you fucking stick together. End of story. You stand up for each other, you are there for one another, you bleed for one another if you have to. And if a family member does something wrong -- steals or murders or any other crime -- you continue to love them. You don't make excuses for them, you don't cover up what they did, you don't say that what they did was okay, but you don't ever, ever stop loving them. And if a family member chooses to pursue a life that you would never choose for yourself, you continue to fucking love them anyway.

Do you know what love is? Love is being able to say, "I want you to be happy, even if it isn't because of me. I want you to be happy, even if I don't agree with what you want." That's real love.


@ Fed Up:

You said the following:

"while there are still male role models, none of them, imo, is really going to compare to a father. I've never been in both situations, so I can't give a first hand comparison, but it would seem to make sense that parents are likely to have a greater emotional bond with their children."

"I've never been in both situations," you say. And then you presume to tell us that a child needs a mother and a father? That's bullshit. As someone who grew up with a father, but not a dad, I am telling you that it's bullshit. I have almost no emotional connection to my father, and I don't truly consider him my family. He's a good man, but so are plenty of men who shouldn't have been fathers; he never understood how to be a dad instead of the equivalent of a guy who just happens to live with us. So far as "conventional" family roles go, I have taken on the role of the father figure for my younger brother. My mother may as well have raised me by herself, and once I became old enough, I raised my brother with her.

Don't give me that bullshit about a child needing a male and a female role model. I am perfectly well-adjusted. My brother is well-adjusted. I will admit that I feel a bit cheated that I didn't have a dad, but that's only because he was there, and he wouldn't be my dad. There are few things as painful as reaching out to your father and having him never try to take your hand. The times I was happiest and at my most stable were the times when it was just my mom, my brother, and me.

Don't you dare tell me that I "needed" a father. My mother gave me everything I ever could have asked for, and more. Don't you fucking dare insult her by saying that it isn't enough.

8/16/2007 12:40:21 PM

melange

Motherfucking asshole.

1/11/2008 2:49:59 AM

melange

It's people like you that led to my biological father having the right to visitation. He abused me, you fucker. But they couldn't let my biological mother and her lesbian partner raise me, or else, horrors, I wouldn't have the image of men as being abusive, misogynistic, worthless beings engrained in me.

DIE. Now please.

1/11/2008 2:52:11 AM

Dom

Go suck off a donkey you bigoted son of a bitch.

1/11/2008 2:56:25 AM

Xis

A perfect example of how corrupt Southern courts tend to be.

1/12/2008 4:00:47 AM

Ernest

I weep for you daughter, trying to have a stable, normal life only to have it screwed up but her insane father. Shame on you, sir.

1/15/2008 2:56:35 AM

Ansem the Wise

Congrats, you're a bitch.

1/15/2008 3:13:18 AM

Lucy.

There are no words that fully explain how much of a twat you are.

You are a cruel, small-minded imbocile.

You need to get a life and stop being to inconsiderate to your own child.

I am only glad you are not my father. I would have never spoken to you again, and I'm straight.

You should grow some respect for other peoples lives.

1/15/2008 3:42:51 PM

GigaGuess

How utterly and completely repulsive. People like this make me physically ill.

1/15/2008 5:02:26 PM

Yandao

God bless you for saving an innocent child from the clutches of the evil scissor sisters, sir. You are a true American hero

1/16/2008 6:16:12 PM

Patrick

You are a horrible, horrible person for denying them their children.

1/16/2008 7:35:21 PM
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