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#257031
Pix
The Declaration of Independence is a "dear John" letter to King George III. It has nothing to do with the Constitution, which is the founding document of our nation, and which does not mention a God or anything that could be mistaken for one. You fail.
7/3/2007 5:02:33 PM
#257033
ForensicAtheist
This guy definitely failed Social Studies or he was home schooled.
7/3/2007 5:11:00 PM
#257035
Sir Micheal L. Foley
Very true. We should rewrite it!
7/3/2007 5:13:04 PM
#257037
David B.
Ah, but while the Declaration of Independence might talk about the pursuit of happiness, an evolutionist knows that only the fittest will actually catch some!
7/3/2007 5:17:38 PM
#257039
Doctor Whom
So, then, the Declaration of Independence ties us to 18th-century science? If so, then get off of your computer.
Besides, the Creator in the Declaration of Independence
isn't the God of the Bible.
7/3/2007 5:23:58 PM
#257045
Mudflappus
Deism anyone?
7/3/2007 5:56:44 PM
#257046
Freboy
Who, in the name of science/evolution, has ever questioned the Constitution?
7/3/2007 5:57:42 PM
#257049
Old Viking
The D of I is a recitation of grievances against King George, and its "creator" is generic. It was expedient even then for politicians to acknowledge the mouth-breathers.
7/3/2007 6:00:20 PM
#257057
Darwin
The declaration says "...the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them,...". Nature's god huh? Sounds pagan to me. Besides, it predates the knowledge of Darwinian evolutionary theory, so what real choice did they have? A lot of the founding fathers were smart enough, and non-religious enough, that had they known of evolution they would have dropped any theistic assumptions like a hot rock.
7/3/2007 6:21:28 PM
#257063
Brian X
Remember, the Declaration of Independence was a manifesto, not a legal document. If you conflate the Declaration with the US Constitution, you're a dimwit, especially as they were written well over a decade apart, and not by all the same people.
7/3/2007 6:27:54 PM
#257078
Osiris
Mr. Jefferson wants a word with you.
7/3/2007 7:06:03 PM
#257102
WritingIsMyReligion
Deism for the win, I think, ya moron. Also time to separate the DoI from the Constitution.
7/3/2007 8:51:44 PM
#257109
Wet Walnuts
What the fuck does evolution (or the Declaration of Independence, for that matter) have to do with Constitutional Law?
7/3/2007 9:07:46 PM
#257122
Angel Kaida
The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are separate documents.
:(
7/3/2007 10:09:26 PM
#257141
Jim
They were Diests. They weren't Christians.
7/3/2007 10:50:05 PM
#257142
Logic
Y'know... maybe you're right.
If so, then does that mean atheists are allowed to legislate that idiots like this guy are rounded up and sent back to kindergarten?
After all, they're giving atheists a free pass to ignore the constitution...
7/3/2007 10:55:31 PM
#257183
Prager
A deist politician appealing to the masses for support (and saying and doing whatever necessary to get that support) is no great surprise.
7/4/2007 2:05:36 AM
#257191
ArmandT
*reads the entire Declarartion and Constitution*
Nope, no mention of God at all.
The Declaration is just one big "Fuck you, George" letter written in gentlemanly language. You should read it, its only a few pages long.
7/4/2007 2:17:08 AM
#257241
Mr Smith
It just says Creator. You don't even need to interpret that on a religious level for it to make sense.
For example my Creator was my mother.
7/4/2007 5:58:13 AM
#257312
flipper
Jefferson was a deist, basically a Unitarian. You, a fundie, would probably not consider him a Christian, or his "Creator" the same as your Chrisitan God. You guys really need to read some colonial American history before making idiots of yourselves.
7/4/2007 9:18:01 AM
#257373
anevilmeme
1 The man who wrote the Declaration of Independence was a Deist.
2 Stop with the false premise that evolution and atheism are linked, they're not. There are Christians. Muslems, Jews, Hindus, Buddists, etc that accept evolution based upon the evidence.
3 The Constitution and Bill of Rights do not mention, God, Jesus, the Bible or Christianity.
4 Seriously, find out if your parents can get their money back on the home school program they bought for you.
7/4/2007 10:41:08 AM
#257713
MrBadAxe
The only reason christians can jump on this one is because 'Creator' is capitalized. If not capitalized, it could mean one's parents.
7/5/2007 2:37:41 AM
#257955
NonProphet
Declaration of Independence =/= Constitution.
You failed grade-school history, I'm guessing.
7/5/2007 3:45:56 PM
#259625
tracer
Has this month's "Treaty of Tripoli, Bitch!" award been given out yet?
7/9/2007 6:45:54 PM
#259646
LT. Fred
MrBadAxe, this is 18th century ye Olde English we are taling about. Spelling wasn't standardised, even from the same author on the same document with the same word. Random capitilisation of words back then was common: Creator as oposed to creator means nothing.
7/9/2007 7:42:20 PM
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