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"We already know that E=mc2 is wrong because it contradicts Newton's law of gravity. E=mc2 says nothing is faster than the speed of light....yet as we know, this is not correct. Gravity is instantaneous, thus faster than the speed of light. If the earth were to move, for example, the moon would somehow "know" it and move right along with it. Same with the sun...if the sun were to move, the planets would follow the sun around, all without ropes.

Scientists have long known that Einstein's theory contradicted Newton's law of gravity, but it's just one of those things they try to keep hush about and sweep under the carpet like it doesn't exist.

So if E=mc2 is wrong, which it is, then we can pretty much be assured that astronomers and cosmologists are not to be trusted because they simply do not know what they're talking about."


supersport, Carm 102 Comments [8/17/2007 11:38:46 PM]
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#277552
Goosey

Not that it matters much but I should add that in the above formula, t1 is observed time from outside the frame of reference, and t0 is the observed time from inside the frame of reference. Where the frame of reference is the object that's travelling at speed, obviously.

The same formula works substituting time for length and mass as well.

8/18/2007 6:23:30 AM

#277553
BlackWolfe

So, I suppose the term "terminal velocity" means nothing to you?

8/18/2007 6:34:18 AM

#277564
Wet Walnuts

I was never a very good physics student, and even I know you are full of shit, Stupidsport.

8/18/2007 7:19:05 AM

#277569
red cat

Einstein's elbows are just about worn out from all that spinning.

8/18/2007 7:46:44 AM

#277570
Doctor Whom

"So if E=mc2 is wrong, which it is, then we can pretty much be assured that astronomers and cosmologists are not to be trusted because they simply do not know what they're talking about."

One of the blessings of being a fundy is that you automatically know more about cosmology than the cosmologists, more about biology than the biologists, more about other people's inner lives than those people themselves, and more about everything than those nasty old hellbound athy-yeasts.

8/18/2007 8:03:03 AM

#277571
Trovore

Holy Moley! Supersport is still alive? I thought he died months ago from the brain atrophy. You know? From lack of use.

8/18/2007 8:09:47 AM

#277572
Goosey

Oh, and also, it's suggested that gravity can appear to travel faster than the speed of light, but it does this by 'taking shortcuts', not by actually travelling faster than the speed of light.

More information here (if it isn't badurl'd):-
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3232

8/18/2007 8:10:01 AM

#277579
Frank

Scientists actually are claiming to have sent photons faster than the speed of light.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22255966-2,00.html

8/18/2007 8:36:16 AM

#277585
Count Spatula

I don't even know where to begin on this one... so much failure in one post.... @_@

8/18/2007 8:45:58 AM

#277587
John

WTF? Three pieces of baloney in three sentences. We may need to award him the Golden Carico.

8/18/2007 8:54:01 AM

#277589
Galileo

idiot

8/18/2007 8:58:36 AM

#277591
Mr Smith

Supersport has yet again proved his massive misunderstanding of science. It's so wrong that I'm going to have to go find a dictionary to find a word that means "So extremely wrong, wrong just doesn't cut it".

You Mega-Fail. With knobs on.

8/18/2007 9:25:47 AM

#277593
cool cats

Oh, it's sock puppet supersport. I call parody.

I really think supersport and Carico are the same person.

8/18/2007 10:16:23 AM

#277595
Puck

Show your proof, please. Better yet, submit your proof to the Scientific American editors. This is important!

(Well...E=mc2 is wrong as a mathematical expression, so I'll give stuporsnort credit for recognizing that. Isn't it e=mC^2?)

8/18/2007 10:40:14 AM

#277597
The Watcher

Great googly-moogly that's wrong! There's bad physics, bad scientific method, and bad history, all wrapped up with a stupid conclusion!

8/18/2007 11:03:19 AM

#277602
jwu

Even if gravity propagated faster than the speed of light that wouldn't violate it - because gravity has no mass as far as we know. Things can't accelerate past the speed of light because the relativistic increase of mass would mean that this requires infinite energy.

8/18/2007 11:32:18 AM

#277603
DCoke

How can someone be so fucking slow?

8/18/2007 11:36:36 AM

#277604
Edgar Allan

Swing and a miss.

8/18/2007 11:43:21 AM

#277605
Bush Administration

We here in the Bush Administration are going to be fixing the polls in the next election as we did in the past.This time supersport is going to be the new weiner,,i mean winner of the election.His profound stupidness will do wonders for President Bush.We calculate after supersport is in office for a mere 2 weeks the retarded stuff he spews out will drastically overshadow our current leader in pure bullshit,lies,logic,and idiocy,knocking Mr.Bush a few rungs up the ladder and due to supersports crap Mr.Bush will look like a genius by comparison,and perhaps people will forget how much a moron he is after supersport takes over.

8/18/2007 11:52:35 AM

#277611
Aethernaut

...Says the jackass who has no idea what he's talking about.

8/18/2007 12:20:49 PM

#277612
attila the pun

Scientists did face this problem. They figured out that gravity isn't instant but travels at the speed of light too.

8/18/2007 12:20:50 PM

#277617
TIPC

FAIL


8/18/2007 12:57:29 PM

#277625
Fish

No! Nononono. E=mc^2 has sweet F A to do with gravity. It merely states that matter and energy are interchangeable. Gravity is not thought to be instantaneous either but also propogates at the speed of light. However, it is a weak force in comparison, so at great distances (lightyears etc) you can pretty much ignore it if nothing is nearby.

Btw, the sun does move and the planets do follow it. We're not accelerating, which is why you don't sense us moving.

8/18/2007 1:20:10 PM

#277629
Esjeur

Okay, if E=mc^2 is wrong, I have two cities in Japan for you to visit.

8/18/2007 1:34:58 PM

#277631
Tactical Grace

We've never actually seen the particle that gravity acts with. We know a lot about its strength and how it works. Actually, we don't even know for sure if gravity is instantaneous or if it propagates at the speed of light. And until we can find a way of testing that particular conclusion of general relativity, we won't know for sure.

But hell, I'm trying to give a reasonable reply to the unreasonable. So useless.

8/18/2007 1:47:03 PM
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