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Last night, I was reading to my two children out of their 'children's bible.' We got to the story of Abraham and Isaac and I read to them about Abraham being willing to sacrifice Isaac in obedience to God. When we finished my son, who is 9, looked very distraught. He then asked me the most difficult question that I have ever heard in my life....'Would you do that to me if God asked you to?' I sat for a moment and franically thought of what was best to say. Needless to say, my pause was cause for alarm in his mind. After a few agonizing moments, I responded with a very slow and distraught...'Yes. If God commanded me to, then I would have no choice but to be obedient; however, I hope that God would never demand such a thing from me.' He looked shocked. And I felt that I had said the wrong thing. Of course, my wife immediately spoke up and said that she would not ever do anything to hurt him. But I began to explain myself to him. I told him that he was saved, and that death on this earth brings life in heaven with Jesus. He understood perfectly and then said something amazing. He looked at his mother and said, 'I would rather die and go to heaven and God would be happy with you for obeying Him, than to know that when I died you could go to hell for not doing what you were told.'

Bone_Mender, Rapture Ready 40 Comments [4/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Nathan

We (us who don't believe in these fairy tales some people call religion) really need to find a way to completely remove psycho and schizophrenic people like Bone_Mender from the face of this planet!

7/19/2006 2:12:33 PM

David D.G.

This is just sad on so many levels.


~David D.G.

7/19/2006 3:57:29 PM

Miss Sweet

WHY does he have children in the first place? What woman on crack would marry him? To the Homeland Security mobile!

10/7/2006 6:49:12 AM

Joe

Worst. Parent. Ever.

12/30/2006 7:16:29 PM

SaneChick

We should start a charitable fund to help cover that poor kid's future psychiatric bills.

12/30/2006 7:18:46 PM

socktree

Paging Andrea Yates...

12/30/2006 9:08:02 PM

Goetian

My parents were nominal Christians, i.e they believed in God but weren't very serious about it, so when we came to that story in the Bible, we skipped it. I asked why, but got no explanation.

So later, when no one was watching, I read it myself. I was absolutely horrified.

I've always been angry at my parents for half-assing their religion, but after reading this quote, I suppose I should be grateful that they didn't read me that story after all. I could have ended up as brainwashed as this kid.

12/30/2006 9:23:40 PM

jh

And yet, when God does commnad someone to murder their babies, the christians all run around and complain that it wasn't REALLY God, cause god wouldn't do that.

Nice racket they got going there. If the modern fundamentalist got a hold of Abraham, then Abraham would be sitting in a texas Jail awaiting his death sentence.

Makes you wonder why the \"God told me to do it\" defense just doesn't work more often when it comes to murdering children.

Oh. That's right. People know that when God tells you to murder your child, you're FREAKING NUTS.

12/30/2006 9:51:34 PM

SaneChick

The scary thing is, I think \"God told me to do it\" might fly in Texas.

12/30/2006 9:55:25 PM

jack cambrian

this is fucked on so many levels. and these vile people are always the first to talk about 'family values'. 'atheists are horrid amoral people with no family values etc. etc.' but then they state that they would kill their own children if 'god' required it of them. how can the human brain even reconcile this sort of oxymoronic doublespeak?

12/30/2006 10:00:04 PM

Malicious Bloke

Yes, son, if I heard a voice in my head telling me to kill you you can rest assured I would do it

12/30/2006 10:08:08 PM

retrow

And I felt that I had said the wrong thing. Of course, my wife immediately spoke up and said that she would not ever do anything to hurt him.


It would be a good time to explain what moral relativism means. With god telling you to kill your kids, and you not doing it because its not the right thing to do - meaning they think they know better than god. But since morals are from god, what's the right thing to do?

12/30/2006 10:12:02 PM

Mr. Chuckles

well ok then...and my christian friend wonders why i begin to cuss him out whenever he begins to mention anything bible related

12/31/2006 4:31:27 AM

Joe

Anyone else think that a \"children's bible\" is just a really bad idea?

12/31/2006 6:22:10 AM

SakuraPassion

Oh, I should get Social Services on you. This one of most fucked up things I've read.

12/31/2006 8:58:48 AM

Ellimist

Joe: Having owned a few when I was young, they don't usually talk about these sorts of passages. Mostly, they talk about the parts of the bible which focus on commonly held values in society while adding \"Praise God!\" at the end of every insert. They might be as saccharine as Barney, but they're unlikely to \"brainwash\" to the extent that this kid's suffered (beyond the whole fairytale of God's existence anyway).

12/31/2006 10:13:31 AM

Jessica

That is SOOO sick

12/31/2006 12:12:46 PM

szenah

Some think that the Abraham and Isaac story symbolically tells of how the Hebrews stopped sacrificing their firstborn children. Of course, literalists screwed it up to the point that every few years now we have someone who thinks God told them to kill a child.

12/31/2006 12:51:41 PM

daizy

Actually it DOES fly in Texas...andrea yates case. She was GUILTY because she killed her children because SATAN tolded her they were going to hell...if you kill your children because GOD told you they are going to hell you can not be found guilty because GOD is a moral authority and it is OK to follow him, but not satan. That being said you are found not guilty for reasons of mentally insanity \"because God won't tell you to kill kids so you are hearing voices\" Rather than following Satan. It is very confusing, but there are some GREAT articles about this law if you goodle andrea yates.

1/2/2007 7:11:30 AM

Riddles

Poor kid, look what they turned him into. He was terrified by what the invisible sky wizard would do and ended up going crazy on the spot and believing in the imaginary megalomaniac that tells you to pointlessly kill people

2/21/2008 10:50:53 PM

Wildjourne

Sick, sick story.

2/22/2008 1:53:11 AM

freako104

Has someone thought to call Protective Services on this ass?

2/22/2008 2:10:28 AM

GigaGuess

Personally, I'd die a thousand deaths before I'd let someone harm a hair on the head of any child under my care, let alone do it myself. But what do I know? I'm just a heathen.

2/22/2008 2:19:06 AM

Tomby Stone

... Then my child asked me, 'But how would you know if God wanted you to kill me' To which I answered, 'I guess he'd just tell me'. He looked puzzled for a moment and said, 'So ... you'd just hear his voice in your head ??' I said, 'Yes' He then asked, 'How would you know it was God's voice in your head ??' I told him, 'I'd just know'. He asked, 'Why ?? Would you try and find some evidence that the voice you were hearing came from God and wasn't just a mental delusion or something else ??' 'Oh no' I said, 'To demand evidence would make me a no good wicked doubter. We must have faith, that's the whole point of the story. When you hear a voice in your head telling you it's God and he wants you to kill a child you should just do it without question' He paused for a moment, turned to his mother and asked, 'Mommy, can I go live with Grandma ??'

2/22/2008 2:33:33 AM

canadiest

This story. like a few I've read is bullshit anyway. Notice how their children speak so well? And understand completely after a simple explanation? A 9 year old would be full of "why" questions. Also, do childrens bibles carry this story? None I've seen and I've looked at quite a few,, they're often well illustrated and short on words

2/22/2008 2:09:11 PM
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