Great Gobs Of Gooey Green Gorilla Guts (GGGGGG). The more evilutionists try to explain their THEORY, the more they discover that evilution is IMPOSSIBLE!!, but because they don't want to be accountable to a Creater God and His laws, statutes, commandments and covenants, they will deny the truth of Intelligent Design even when it's staring them in the face. In the DVD Privileged Planet, it shows beyond any doubt the evilution is impossible because too many "coincidences" would have had to taken place.
When we were kids we were told that a frog turned into a prince, and then we were told that it was just a fairytale, but in school we were told it was evilution.
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Frogs turning into princes are fairy tales, as are the laws, statutes, commandments and covenants of the bible. Where's the school? Kansas?
what can I say, it's true. Back in my school they told us that a prince evilved from a frog.
Oh wait, did I say school?
Holy inconsistencies, Batman!
Oh please, your proof of how the world began comes from a book that can't even decide if gawd is loving and merciful or full of vengance and fury. The more that scientists try to explain their theories, the more you stick your fingers in your thick heads and sing 'la la la'. You just can't stand that you and your silly little book are proved WRONG.
Take all the planets that have ever existed or ever will exist. Then, consider the probability that a planet could support life. Then, consider the probability that a planet will have life evolve on it to at minimum the equivalent of homo sapiens.
As there are more and more planets, the probability that at least one of them will end up having intelligent (using the term loosely in view of the above) life on it approaches one.
We have math -- we win.
If I roll a die, there is only a 1/6 chance of any given result.
Therefore, we know for certain that something unlikely will happen.
You don't know shit about stochastic variables, I win.
In other words:
See dpareja's comment.
dpareja,
Actually, we do not know how likely intelligent life is. For all we know, this is the only time in the entire multiverse that intelligent life has evolved, and there is no reliable way to calculate the odds of it happening when it has only been observed once. (That, by the way, cuts both ways - creationists cannot say that the odds of life evolving are 10^-1000 or whatever because we simply cannot know).
What we have is facts and evidence on our side: fossils, genetics, geology, etc. all tell us that evolution happened. Sure, "humans" may be unlikely, but *something* would have evolved if we had not.
Hope that helps,
Grey Wolf
One 94% of the western world thinks that Evolution is accurate. Second, those DVDs are a paramount of incoherence and falsity. And Evolution doesn't mean that you kiss a monkey and turns into human. Again, evolution doesn't work that way.
It is interesting how a perfect omnipotent god, created a perfect univers. That then went wrong. And don't waffle about the devil: according to fundies everything, simply everything has its beginning in god. Including therefore pride, and disobedience. And certainly jealousy and vengence.
GreyWolf: to take your point further, in infinite time, and infinite space anything is possible. Even a fundie seeing the truth..
I'm sorry? Who discovered evolution was impossible? Can you tell me more about the great conspiracy that's keeping this out of any halfway-respectable journalism?
And yes, you're damn right I don't want to be accountable to something that doesn't exist. That way I free myself up to be accountable to things that actually matter.
The truth of Intelligent Design? The Holy King James Bible, the source of all truth, never mentions such a thing. Repent, heretic!
Grey Wolf,
Actually, all my argument requires is the following:
1. The probability of life at least as intelligent as homo sapiens evolving on any given planet is greater than 0. This is true since we exist. We do not actually need an explicit numerical value here for the limiting argument. Since it exists, though, I'll call this probability p.
2. The number of planets that have existed or will exist is very large. This, actually, is what we really don't know: although we're finding planets orbiting other stars, and from that evidence make a reasonable extrapolation that there are many more planets out there, we still can't say whether there are any other planets, and if there are, whether there are sufficiently many of them to make life evolving on one or more of them likely. SO call the number of planets l.
Then Prob(at least 1 planet evolves intelligent life) = 1 - (1 - p)^l. If p or l are sufficiently large, this probability approaches 1.
Again, we don't need to know what the probability of any given planet's evolving intelligent life is; all we need is that that probability is greater than 0.
What coincidences? You mean the fact that the life that's here is the life this planet can support?
Natural selection explains that perfectly. It explains how life responds to environmental change, too, something ID can't do.
dpareja,
Yes, I am fairly aware of the maths involved in the calculations of life and intelligent life. I accept that if p is positive, and q (I've changed to q from l (ell), which I confuse with 1 (one)) is sufficiently big, probability will approach 1.
The thing is that q is limited to about an order of magnitude above the number of stars in the universe, but there is no limit to how small p may be - if q is, say, 10^10000 but p is 10^-100000000, chances of intelligent life are 0, and we are just a good poker hand deal.
My point is that we have no idea what p is, without further evidence. It may be vanishingly small, it may be almost 1 - we don't know, and attempting to extrapolate from a single point is sloppy statistics.
Hope that helps,
Grey Wolf
The truth? The only way you could have come to that conclusion if you stuck your fingers in your ears and went, "Lalalalalala! I can't hear you!"
There is nothing true about Intelligent Design or Creationism.
The fact that you put "theory" in caps locks suggests you don't even know what a theory is. The fact that you don't understand the difference between the fairytale of the frog into a prince (the frog was a prince to begin with) and evolution says a lot.
You are a retard, Iam1Rul-2, and you deserve that name-calling since you started it with "evilution". If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Even if you could counter all of the evidence for evolution, I would still not believe in creation. Your belief is based on a flawed text and supported by people, like yourself, who will lie their asses off to get people to buy into their bullshit. No, you lying fuck, I ain't fallin' for it.
To start off, that's gopher guts, not gorilla guts. (thumbs-up to TheManeki)
It just goes downhill from there.
NonProphet, I take offense at that.
Besides, that implies he went to school at all.
Comedy genius via puns like 'evilution', check.
Disparaging presumptions on the mindsets of the OP's opponents, check.
Overestimating how 'obvious' his side is, check.
More comedy genius via 'fairy tale' reference, check.
This is a classic. 5'd.
The intentional misspelling of the word "evolution" does nothing to promote so much as one iota of intelligence on the part of this clown. Personally, I'm starting to believe in evolution not because it's the most plausible explanation
for the appearance of all living things, but just to spite these fundy freakshows.
"accountable to a Creater God and His laws, statutes, commandments and covenants..." prey tell what the fuck are you talking about. You should know that DVD's are like your Bable, fiction. Great school you must of been to, or perhaps you just couldn't understand what was being taught.
Shit I don't think that he's spelling evolution as "evilution" as a dig, I think he's just that damn stupid. Hell he can't even spell "creator" (creater). And using the debunked "Priviledged Planet", the discovery institute's comedy of errors made to defend Intelligent Design as a source is as almost as bad as using the Bible to defend creationism. He's definitely in fairy tale land, hell, what am I saying, he posts on free republic, he lives in fairy tale land.
When I was a kid, I was taught, "Great green globs of grimy gooey gopher guts, marinated monkey meat, little bloody birdie feet, french-fried eyeballs swimming in a bloody pool, and me without my spoon!"
But I learned it from my older brother, not school. And it had nothing to do with evolution.
It's the old fundie fred "Evolution is falling apart!" tactic with a new, lemony twist!
Here's something to consider, your claim of Intelligent Design in based off using human intelligence. Would you create
*grumble* Hit enter too quickly.
My question can be asked quickly. If the universe was created by an Intelligent Designer, why do 8 of the 9 planets (or 7 or the 8) have no signs of life on them?
But the Intelligent Design advocates say they are not talking about God. And based on his inspired book, God ain't the brightest thing that ever sashayed down the turnpike, so I see little to be gained by being accountable to him.
Jezebel's Evil Sister for the win! (Darn, why does everyone else have such wonderful thoughts before I get on the board?) Yep, points for the win to JES! Keep up the good work, girlfriend!
I'm sorry? Who discovered evolution was impossible?
Apparently, such...luminaries as Kent Hovind, the scientist without a science degree, Kirk Cameron, washed-up B-grade actor extraordinaire, and Ray Comfort, evangelist.
Dude, it's not impossible because it, y'know, happened. We're here, ain't we?
And Jezebel's Evil Sister, "wonderful magic hoo-hah land" is now my phrase of the week. Now I can annoy my friends! Yay!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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