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Again, every effect must have an adequate cause.Toy--toy makershoe--shoe makerwatch--watchmakerhouse--housemakeruniverse--universe makerman--man maker

NoahK, Christian Forums 26 Comments [4/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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God--God maker.

9/9/2006 5:24:37 AM


Strawman -- dumbass!

9/9/2006 5:48:41 AM


"Again, every effect must have an adequate cause."

What is a thought of God caused by then?

2/5/2009 12:06:40 PM

Darwin's Bullfrog

Space Bar -- Space Bar maker. Use the space bar. It is your friend.

2/5/2009 1:06:20 PM


I've said it before, What was a all-powerful God doing 6000+ years ago when (you claim) there was nothing?

2/5/2009 3:09:38 PM


Silly child. If god exists, I'm sure she would have shown up in one of the billion forums that discuss her existence.

I guess she either doesn't care or she doesn't exist.

2/5/2009 3:13:33 PM


bullshit -- bull

2/11/2009 12:47:41 PM

Allegory for Jesus

So since every toy needs a toymaker, and there are toys, I should believe in Geppetto? Since every shoe needs a shoemaker, and there are shoes, I should believe that "Elves and the Shoemaker" was non-fiction? Since every watch needs a watchmaker, and there are watches, should I believe that Sylar exists? This is to show the ridiculousness of believing, even if the logic of "design therefore designer" wasn't flawed, that using this to believe in a specific designer is baseless.

Oh, but the design argument is flawed anyway because it simply says that since artificial things are artificial, natural things need to be a different kind of artificial. That is inanity, not logic.

9/28/2010 6:52:11 PM

Professor M

The "single effect --> single cause" model is an artifact of the human process of simplification by abstraction. Congratulations, NoahK -- you're worshipping an artifact of your own thought processes.

9/29/2010 5:11:31 AM

rubber chicken

Rain -- rainmaker

9/29/2010 8:43:57 AM

David B.

Wait so do Shakers come from a shaker-maker?
Should I be bying my books from a bookmaker?
And when I want a break, do I ask a holidaymaker?

9/29/2010 9:00:42 AM


So . . .
virtual particles -- virtual particle maker
small pox -- small pox maker
tapeworms -- tapeworm maker
Satan -- Satan maker
Zeus -- Zeus maker
dictator -- dictator-maker
evil -- evil maker

(Well, I'm pretty sure that some of those were invented by people and that some of them are the result of natural selection, but I'm not so certain about the first one.)

9/29/2010 4:24:07 PM



9/29/2010 9:47:31 PM


cause does not necessarily imply maker

9/30/2010 2:41:53 PM


I like 'housemakeruniverse' best, from this list of new words, but 'universemakerman' is nice, too.

Plus, most of my toys were made by machines in a factory, ditto shoes, and my house was made by a construction team. The first two are just anachronisms, but who ever heard of a housemaker? A homemaker is a spouse who stays in the house and makes it a nice place to live, but housemaker is nada.

9/30/2010 3:38:08 PM


uum...okay fuck this. did anyone get that? seriously

9/30/2010 4:07:47 PM


oh, Makerman!

One of Alan Moore's works I never read, but probably should.

9/30/2010 8:25:31 PM

Same Reasoning


9/30/2010 10:18:09 PM


Autumn - autumn maker
Harvest - harvest maker
Financial crisis - G.W. Bush

10/1/2010 12:18:04 AM

Boy koko

Okay so all those things had a need. There was a need for shoes, so then we got a shoemaker. There was a need for toys, we get toymaker. But pre-life, when was there a need for life? Supply and demand, dude.

9/23/2011 9:28:35 PM

What. The. Fuck.

9/24/2011 1:37:20 AM

Quantum Mechanic


8/8/2012 1:30:10 AM

David B.

So somewhere in the middle of Antartica there must be a seriously kick-ass snowmaker!

8/8/2012 6:42:56 AM

anything built by humans had a builder who was human. that covers toys, shoes , watches and houses.

prove to me that the universe was built , then do man. You may not use extradimensional mice as an explanation but DON'T PANIC

8/8/2012 8:45:26 PM


Artificial thing=created.
Natural thing=also created?

8/2/2013 12:56:08 PM

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