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I mean that if the romans were successful in destroying scriptures one could have collected writings from the commoners and put the bible back together word for word. There is more secular writings about Jesus than Julius Ceaser.

ksayres, BET Boards 10 Comments [4/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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David D.G.

What a stupendously asinine assertion. Name ONE that is a verifiably contemporaneous account, independent from other biblical accounts.


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2/10/2006 8:52:34 PM

Osiris

No.

1/13/2008 12:35:32 AM

Lizuka

Even if this were true, you are aware that eyewitness accounts are the least reliable kind of evidence, right?

10/8/2010 12:50:47 PM



and there are more movies made about Dracula than there are of Teddy Roosevelt, what's your point?

10/8/2010 5:47:13 PM

Angua

I don't think that most of the "commoners" could write back then, so how you would get them to all write down what happened, I'm not sure. (Especially, given the hundreds of people who were supposedly eyewitnesses to Jesus's miracles and the fact that none of those eyewitnesses actually thought that what there seeing was actually an event worthy of writing down . . . or only a few did and their writings were destroyed. But if there were so many witnesses, you'd think that someone would find it noteworthy, especially because anyone with Jesus's abilities might be a serious threat to the stability of Roman rule in the area.)

There may well be more writing about Jesus than Julius Cesar today, but I highly doubt it was that way when the Roman Empire existed and I also am uncertain how much of what is written about Jesus can be called "secular" so I don't know how you are arriving at that number.

Look, I'd just really like some sort of citation for these claims. I like to be informed. If you're claims are correct, you haven't shown that Jesus was the Son of God or anything of the sort, but I'm interested in history and would like to know where this information is coming from. Especially about the literacy rate of "commoners" under Roman rule in Palestine.

10/8/2010 6:26:21 PM

Dharmabum

Oh. Come. On.

This is the single most fucked-up stupid thing I have seen all day.

10/8/2010 9:11:18 PM

Justanotheratheist

That would have been the all time classic rendition of the broken telephone game, especially in an era when hardly anybody was literate.

Mind you, a bunch of drunken Romans playing broken telephone while indulging in a wild orgy with a thousand naked women could not have come up with a bigger heap of steaming bullshit than the bible as we know it today.

10/8/2010 10:06:29 PM

Quantum Mechanic

"There is more secular writings ... "

Houston, we have a problem.

1/28/2013 10:39:20 PM

Blarghonius

And you've never read a book in your life. Not even the Bible. You had that guy in the black dress read it for you.

1/29/2013 6:47:06 PM

Canadiest

Are these not the same Romans who created the first Bible and spread it's message by the sword? The people who collected the Torah, spread it's influence and created Christianity destroyed the scriptures?

You're only sorta right, they culled stuff out and rewrote stuff but the Holy Roman Empire was the Christian Juggernaut for centuries. Your religion wouldn't exist without them, at best you'd have the vicious Gnostic Christianity as your history, suits you fundies, but luckally you're not all fundies.

Julius Ceasar, recorded emporer, recorded by many nations, recorded in first person narrative, personal records preserved,,,

vs

Bible accounts of Jesus not first person narratives and all writting well after the claims.

1/30/2013 8:22:37 PM
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