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Aside from the part about stigmatizing mothers, this isn't really fundie.
Frankly, I think too many people are going ahead with having kids without thinking about the repercussions.
10/9/2007 9:47:49 PM
J.C. (Joan Crawford), that was $hi+!!!
(Am I hyper-sensitive, or are the recent Fundie Posts even nuttier than usual??)
10/9/2007 9:51:57 PM
You act like children out of wedlock is a big deal.
It's their lives, their choice, get the fuck over it.
10/9/2007 9:52:03 PM
so sluts is a cuss word now?
10/9/2007 9:55:35 PM
False. Then, go read "The Girls Who Went Away" and come back and tell me again how totally fantastic it was when kids didn't know how babies were made or that condoms existed. Then when little Susie let little Johnny go a little too far, and Susie had to disappear for nine months until her baby could be stolen from her because she really wasn't given any choice-- come home without the baby and forget this ever happened, dear. Maybe someone will still marry you, it sure won't be Johnny though, who is off at college without so much as a postcard.
10/9/2007 10:02:18 PM
Guess what this isn't a recent problem. Teenagers have long been controlled by their hormones instead of their frontal lobe. The sex drive in humans is highest in the teen years, too early for them to enter modern society.
10/9/2007 10:11:48 PM
And where is the father? Are you trying to shame girls into not creating babies by themselves?
10/9/2007 10:12:04 PM
And we need to shame them for being born with vaginas. And we need to shame them for having long hair. And we need to shame them for being capable of rational thought.
10/9/2007 10:14:54 PM
Funny, I was born out of wedlock and enjoyed a upper-middle class lifestyle.
Mostly because of the hard work of my mother, and the generosity of my grandparents (they watched me for free when mom was finishing up college and helped mom pay the doctor bills).
10/9/2007 10:18:52 PM
Actually, the fundemental difference is probably education. And the fact that most fundie christians marry way, way earlier than most people.
Abortions do very, very little to change the statistics of having out of wedlock children. No woman out there is stupid enough to view abortion as another form of birth control.
10/9/2007 10:29:48 PM
Even worse, the author of the article thinks condoms are made of lambskin.
10/9/2007 10:32:45 PM
Ansem the Wise
No, we need to teach them about safer sex and how to avoid pregnancy. And to STOP shaming them, and stop giving sex the taboo allure.
10/9/2007 10:48:49 PM
Notice that "shame boys into keeping it in their pants" isn't even a priority.
10/9/2007 10:59:04 PM
We need to shame their boyfriends into using condoms. That would be a huge improvement.
10/9/2007 11:01:05 PM
"why is it increasingly common for children to be born out of wedlock?
This is well known to be the #1 predictor that a child will be raised in poverty."
I think we have a causation/correlation problem here.
10/9/2007 11:06:04 PM
Guess what, halfwit, "unmarried parents" doesn't necessarily equal "teenage single mother". My neighbours' oldest daughter, for example, was nearly 18 when her parents finally married, and she definitely wasn't "raised in poverty."
10/9/2007 11:13:16 PM
Of course. Return to a time when there was a stigma against being a single mother. In fact, let's all sew big red "A"s to their chests. And while we're at it, let's try to solve all the problems of the world by propagating negative emotions. That would fix everything and make everybody happy. (?)
Or maybe, instead of bitching about other people on a message board, you could actually go out and DO something to alleviate poverty. Just a thought.
10/9/2007 11:16:58 PM
Fuck you. Sideways.
-LM, a single mother, not a "girl" 'cause I'm grown kthxbai, and not in poverty either
10/9/2007 11:34:18 PM
Actually, I thought the education level of the parent(s) was the biggest factor in a child being raised in poverty, not whether the parents are married or not.
Stigma against unwed mothers... such as widows? Rape victims?
My, are you just the shining light of love... [/sarcasm]
10/9/2007 11:56:37 PM
MR, did you know that the 2nd highest indicator (after drug or alcohol abuse by the father)of a child suffering abuse is fundamentalist parents with traditional views of male and female roles?
10/10/2007 12:04:52 AM
We have to work harder at convincing teens that God considers sex filthy.
10/10/2007 12:34:37 AM
Correlation =/= Causation
I am guessing that poor people don't bother to get married. It does seem to be an expensive, middle-class thing. Then these unmarried pplz have children.
10/10/2007 12:42:32 AM
While there are some valid points, I'm not sure that "shame" has ever been shown to be an effective birth control method.
Interestingly, adding shame to pregnancy out of wedlock is going to increase the desire for abortions. It would seem to me that anyone sincere about decreasing abortions would seek to lessen the stigma of unwed pregnancies.
10/10/2007 1:09:56 AM
Easy access to birth control could help here as well.
10/10/2007 1:45:44 AM
That they're unwed it doesn't mean that they're poor. And that a couple is married, it doesn't mean that the child is going to be raised with a reasonable income. And by the way, if you focus only in girls, the problem will persist, and don't expect abortions or out of wedlock pregnancies to stop occuring(it has never happened)
10/10/2007 2:11:34 AM
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