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The second law of thermodynamics is frequently cited by Christians as a manifestation of the sin nature. God originally created everything in a perfect state; when Adam and Eve disobeyed and fell from grace, the structure of all things was transformed to a flawed state.

We are all born captives of a disintegration process. Since the fall, everything has been affixed with an expiration date. Some material items may have a longer shelf-life than others, but in the end they all fall victim to decay. The next time your water heater goes on the fritz, you can blame Adam for your aggravation.

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men"(Rom. 5:12).

Todd Strandberg, Rapture Ready  26 Comments [11/1/2007 11:55:17 PM]
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WTF?! || meh

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I thought your god was meant to be all powerful? He can't be too good at his job if all it takes for it to all go to shit is one guy eating something that he shouldn't.

11/2/2007 12:06:28 AM


this is more wtf that usual.

11/2/2007 12:24:26 AM


You understand that the Second Law only applies to energy. In a closed system.

11/2/2007 12:52:54 AM


One man eats an apple once six thousand years ago, and the entire universe falls into disarray because of it? That's the most self-centered thing I've ever heard. No one is that important.

And why rule the universe in a way where the correct functioning of everything depends on one person's obedience? It's not going to work. And when it (predictably) fails, God gets so angry that he throws away the baby, the bath water, the toilet, the kitchen sink, the big screen TV, wrecks the car, shoots the dog, and lights his own house on fire.

At least it's nice to have a scapegoat, right? If anything goes wrong, just blame it on Adam.

11/2/2007 12:58:14 AM


If God created the universe with maximum entropy, then it would consist of nothing but photons (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe). If Adam and Eve existed in a garden of eden, then the universe wasn't 'perfect' to begin with, even before they sinned. Your entropy argument fails.

11/2/2007 2:38:32 AM

I have to admit, at least, that the old Bronze Age shepperds who transmitted this story had certain sense to symbolism and metaphore. But of course, you have to asume that it's JUST A METAPHORE.

11/2/2007 3:48:11 AM

David B.

"Since the fall, everything has been affixed with an expiration date."

The 2LOT didn't apply before the fall?!

11/2/2007 4:37:18 AM

Mister Spak

Was relativity also caused this way?

11/2/2007 5:21:30 AM


That's kind of cool. So I can blame everything on Adam? The milk went sour? Adam. The dog got hit by a car? Thanks for nothing, Adam. I failed my test because I was partying all night? Damn it Adam, stop screwing with my life!

11/2/2007 5:45:58 AM

Doctor Whom

First, we heard that refraction started after the Great Flood. Now, the 2LOT started after the Fall. It seems that your perfect god had to keep fine-tuning his perfect creation.

11/2/2007 6:15:59 AM

Sideshow Bob

Wasn't this put on the Ken Ham "Do-Not-Use" list?

11/2/2007 6:33:27 AM


Okay, I never really stopped to think about it...I thought that claiming God made the world and everything in it for us...but to say that the moment man fell, God's perfect creation went tits up...narcissism much?

11/2/2007 6:44:22 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Sounds like g0d created everything, and ran away. His maintenance plan really sucks.

11/2/2007 7:06:53 AM


I've just realized why this site has so many bugs: it's Adam's fault.

11/2/2007 8:22:18 AM


"The next time your water heater goes on the fritz, you can blame Adam for your aggravation."

So you are saying that original sin was passed on to appliances, also?

Did God also sacrifice his toaster at some point in history to save these poor appliances from eternal torture when they die?

11/2/2007 8:24:37 AM


I also love the logic here. A + B = FISH!

11/2/2007 8:58:30 AM


Plasmids are the paint

11/2/2007 10:12:36 AM


What do fundies have against thermodynamics that makes them abuse it in this way?

11/2/2007 10:29:13 AM

David B.

Scotty wrote: "Did God also sacrifice his toaster at some point in history to save these poor appliances from eternal torture when they die?"

Thank you for that mental image. From now on, whenever something upsets me I am going to cry out 'Jesus Toast!'

11/2/2007 10:45:57 AM


This is why my Yogurt keeps going bad

11/2/2007 10:58:06 AM

Count Spatula

Kind of reads like a troll, but I don't know...

11/2/2007 12:13:09 PM


So what you're saying is, all of the water heaters in Eden before the Fall operated flawlessly and never broke down?

And here I thought water heaters were man-made implements, too.

11/2/2007 1:40:06 PM


Well, kinda. You're basically right, but thermodynamics has nothing to do with sin and my tech breaking has freaking nothing to do with Adam.

11/2/2007 2:05:30 PM

Old Viking

That damned Adam! Do you know what a good water heater goes for these days?

11/2/2007 3:23:19 PM


Yay for universal scapegoats!

11/2/2007 5:13:15 PM
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