How Sad must Atheists be on Christmas. Watching all the Christians running around happy, giving gifts to their family members, singing religious carols... oh, and running around happy (didn't I mention the happy part [[giveup]] )
Atheism is an ideology of cynicism and depressed skepticism... does it get to you guys at all, watching people being optimistic and loving life [[smile]]
I pity Atheists really [[no]]
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I love Christmas. And last I checked, Christians are more grumpy during Christmas time because people are celebrating it as a secular holiday.
I love life now more than I did when I was a Christian, and giving gifts to people I love ALWAYS has meaning.
How empty Christians must feel, forcing themselves to celebrate pagan solstice on December the 25th. How the pagan Christmas tree has no meaning to them.
I really pity the fundies [not].
I celebrate Yule with my immediate family and Christmas with my extended family. I don't go to church, but many of the "religious carols" match the Yule story so well, they might as well singing about the sun (god) being born ...
I can tolerate christians completely taking over our nice peaceful pagan holliday!
I enjoy x-mas. I enjoy giving the people that I love gifts. I enjoy drinking with my friends. I enjoy a good dinner with my family. I'm happy and sated and still an atheist.
You, on the other hand, are a load of bullshit.
That's funny, I love Christmas. It has great meaning for me that has nothing to do with religious fables (and equally little to do with gifts).
How empty do you Christians feel, being unable to celebrate joy and love with your family and friends without attaching a myth about a kid in a barn to it?
How sad must be atheist on Deir el Feir(the lamb's feast), Diwali, Christmas, solstice celebrations in honour to the different gods or Hannukah............well, you see, they're not that sad, after all.
"Watching all the Christians running around happy, giving gifts to their family members, singing religious carols... oh, and running around happy (didn't I mention the happy part [[giveup]] )"
Chapter and verse, please, as to where Christians are told to do any of those things to celebrate Christmas. As an atheist, I enjoy those things (even the religious carols, since one thing that Christianity has managed to do right is its music).
for me the meaning of Christmas is a celbration of generosity and of family. I love Christmas. Heck, I even love Christmas carols, including the religious ones. I'm always very happy at Christmas, and I love life in general.
In short, you are WRONG.
The Christ predated g0d, weren't you informed? The poor Jewish kid that He chose to travel in, the Jesus guy, was indeed born.
Therefore, it should be called Jesusmas instead, and properly celebrated at the time of the year when the "shepherds watch their flocks by night". Not over Saturnalia/Yule.
How sad fundies ust be on the internet, knowing the evil godless atheists made this wonderful computer they use to spread their bilge across the world, while they are unable to create anything even slightly comparable to it.
Fundieism is an ideology of ignorance and poverty. Does it get to you guys at all, knowing all of the things that make the west the dominant culture in the world are the fruit of godless atheistic science, and that christians railed against that science each and every time it discovered something new that would improve your life?
I may not be Christian, but that doesn't stop me from trying to make others feel good. It's almost like...Christianity doesn't have the market cornered on generosity! Shock! Horror!
And as for cynicism and depressed, I've come across two posts in as many days with Xians who sound like they're brewing up a nice cup of cyanide tea as they posted. I tend to find, too, that the more you proclaim a feeling, the less likely you are really feeling it. Could it be you're less than fulfilled, Random?
How sad it must be for Christians to celebrate a Pagan-based holiday.
Christmas isn't about Jesus. Its about Christians raping every other religion and conforming old pagan rituals into christian holidays. :)
Try not to be stupider than absolutely necessary. I'm agnostic, but I sing Christmas carols, I celebrate the feast of end of year and give and receive gifts. It doesn't take a puritanical stance to make a gift, or a time of year special. Get over it!
I am certain far more optimistic than the blinkered, narrow life-view you have espoused would ever allow me to be. So you can wipe that smarmy smile of your ugly fundy mug.
A final point, it was fundies, not Atheists, that abolished Christmas in England for 11 years (1649 to 1660) and they are hated for it. No crib, no carols, no church... Such nice people.
When I give gifts to my family, I feel happy that my family is together and healthy, and Jesus and God have nothing to do with it. I also sing carols and yes, run around happy. I don't need religion for that.
You know, I haven't noticed any difference at all so you just keep telling yourself how miserable I'm supposed to be. While you're out doing the vicious grab for presents and celebrating a holiday ripped off from another culture, I'll be sipping hot tea in front of a fireplace with my family enjoying each other's company. Don't pity me because I actually understand more about what the season represents than you do.
I love Christmas. I love the spirit of it. I love giving gifts that I know people will like and receiving gifts. I love Christmas songs. I love Christmas trees. I love the Christmas Candlelight service.
And I'm not even Christian anymore. Are you saying that the giving of gifts doesn't mean anything to you if it's not for Jesus? I bet birthdays are really depressing then. The Christmas spirit is still happiness to me. You don't have to be Christian to appreciate that.
Giving gifts without any meaning?
IDIOT. YOU'RE GIVING PEOPLE YOU LIKE GIFTS!
Go back and think about that statement real hard before opening your stinkin' yap one more time.
"A final point, it was fundies, not Atheists, that abolished Christmas in England for 11 years (1649 to 1660) and they are hated for it. No crib, no carols, no church... Such nice people."
Hence why the English refer to Thanksgiving as "Fuck off puritans day".
Lots of Christians feel no compunction about singing carols about mythical characters: Santa Claus, Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer, Frosty the Snowman...
You think people feel empty if the gifts they give are not in the "spirit of the season?" Whatever happened to giving gifts to people simply because you love/care/like them enough to spend time trying to do something nice for them?
Further more, how exactly does one see others running around, giving gifts to their families without peering through random people's windows?
Dude, my uncle is an atheist and he seems to enjoy Christmas. It's pretty much turned into Buy Lots Of Stuff And Hang Out With Your Family Day, Oh Yeah And Some Stuff About Baby Jesus.
I kind of want to make a "Happy Birthday Mithras" cake this year. No one will get it, though. :( Poor Mithras.
If it wasn't for Christmas, the supermarkets wouldn't carry refrigerated egg nog.
Therefore, um, Jesus died for your sins, or something.
You obviously do not know the origins of christmas. The PAGAN holiday that celebrated the changing of the seasons and the celtic traditions of the evergreen tree and carolers. Sorry, there is no such thing as christmas, have a happy holiday.
That doesn't explain why I gave out gifts last Christmas, sang Christmas carols (even the religious ones. I like the sound of them), and put up a Christmas tree. To me, Christmas is about family. :D
I used to love xmas, but it's become too materialistic for my tastes. I also dislike it because after years of believing the whole baby jeebus story, I realized that it was all just a big lie and that xmas was stolen from the pagans.
Don't pity atheists. They can enjoy (or not) that time of year as much as you fundies. You guys are the ones who inserted jeebus into our Yule holiday. He's got nothing to do with Yuletide. Hell, he wasn't even born in December!
When I was an atheist, I would look out on Jesus's Birthday and I would feel very sad and left out. I was so empty inside because I saw the love and joy my Christian friends had, but since I was emotionally dead like all atheists, I couldn't enjoy it.
To cope, I turned to typical atheistic pleasures - drugs, gay sex, education, rape, booze, reading books other than the KJV Bible, whores, murder, and dancing. I still was empty inside because these pleasures were actually from Satan.
But then I found Jesus and instantly I was forgiven for all my sins and Christmas is now something I hold dear.
I'm giving you a gift but I'm sad because I can't has Jeebus.
No, that's not how it works. I celebrate Christmas for the fun of it, and it has nothing to do with Christianity.
I fully embrace Christmas as a secular post-Christian holiday.
Or at least I would, if the Christians could somehow stop screeching about how the holiday they stole from the pagans is under attack by people who don't want to crap on their non-christian brothers and sisters for being 'different'.
To be fair and honest... I don't really like christmas all that much.. I celebrate it with my family.. but since it falls right in the middle of winter...... and it's WAY TOO COLD outside, it's certainly not my favorite of holidays.
But I still get together with my families, exchange gifts, put up a christmas tree...
How Sad must Atheists be on Yule. Watching all the Pagans running around happy, giving gifts to their family members, singing Yuletide songs... oh, and running around happy (didn't I mention the happy part [[giveup]] )
Atheism is an ideology of cynicism and depressed skepticism... does it get to you guys at all, watching people being optimistic and loving life [[smile]]
I pity Atheists really [[no]]
Actually, I'm not religious but I see Christmas as the modern form of the traditional winter festival, which it is. It predates Jesus by thousands of years....and I like to celebrate it as the Romans did....with shitloads of feasting and beer.
Well, since I'm a descendent of the ancient Celts, me and my family celebrate Yule, which you christians ripped off for your so-called holiday. So, no sadness there. And if the only time you guys get to love life in on Christmas, then count me out. The rest of the year you guys are paranoid, delusional, depressed, and fearful. No fucking thanks. Also, skepticism doesn't automatically equal depression. It's actually quite exciting to be a skeptic. So, no depression there. Now, I'm a bit cynical, but most atheists aren't really so much. But then again, I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic. Oh well. We never get picked on or biased. I feel left out. It's just easier to join in with the rational, intelligent, ethically moral atheists, than you dumb fucks.
How sad that fundies like RandomID82 can't enjoy a simple happy holiday without having to worry about if people who don't think like him are miserable or not.
How miserable he must feel, seeing as how a miserable atheist gives him joy.
Yeah, seeing all the Christians running around like headless chicks, buying anything and everything, panicking, stressing, oh, that is hard...
You give gifts because you want the recipients to appreciate them. How is that "without any meaning"? The spirit of new year, a new beginning, is still there, whether you believe in 2000 year old fairy tales or not.
does it get to you guys at all, watching people being optimistic and loving life
I imagine they must feel much the same way as I do watching you fundies sitting around moaning about sin and hellfire and praying for death: bemused, disgusted and exasperated.
I'm not sad on Christmas. I like getting together with my family, eating lots of nice food, talking together in front of an open fire, exchanging gifts in front of the Yule fir, celebrating the ending year and the year about to begin.
Where's the religious element in all of this?
In a previous career I used to volunteer to work over Christmas, Double pay and time off in lieu to take when I wanted, win-win.
Personally, I've become happier not "celebrating" Christmas. Between trudging out in the cold to fight the crowds in those horrible shopping rushes, to the constant barrage of schmaltzy songs I've heard a million times even when I didn't want to hear them once, to the right-wingers getting your panties in a bunch every time it's suggested that Christmas is either happy or a holiday, to the sales starting earlier and earlier to the point that the Christmas season seems to take up the majority of the year, I'm glad to be rid of it.
But despite what I wrote above, I don't hate Christmas. I hate what Christmas has become. The national obsession with a single day of the calendar year has gotten out of hand. There's a constant societal pressure on everyone to make this The Best Christmas Ever, OR ELSE. You HAVE to get the perfect gift, you HAVE to have the brightest decorations, you HAVE to have the biggest tree, and if you don't do all of this, you must be an evil, cold-hearted Scrooge truing to destroy Christmas and there is something wrong with you. I say no. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to participate. Rather, I think it's a perfectly reasonable response. I haven't forgotten "the reason for the season." The reason we celebrate Christmas is the same reason we celebrate all midwinter holidays: to make the wait for Spring easier. But the way Christmas is celebrated these days, it only seems to make Winter feel twice as long. And I'm not trying to ruin Christmas. I couldn't even if I wanted to, because the national obsession has already ruined it. What was once a joyful tradition has degenerated into a miserable, grueling routine. And frankly, at this point, I want nothing to do with it.
Can the damage be undone? Yes. But not by the standard "get out and carol and decorate and fill everyone's heart with Christmas spirit" crap. That's how Christmas got ruined in the first place. No, what we need is a break. A vacation from Christmas vacation, if you will. I say to those lamenting that they have to go through the yearly drudge: you DON'T have to. Just stay home and curl up with a good book, listen to Mozart, have some hot chocolate, or do whatever it is you do to relax. Our non-participation actually helps Christmas: The fewer people celebrate, the less overexposed it will seem. If enough of us wash our hands of it, Christmas will become less of a bloated mockery of itself and gradually become the joyful tradition it once was. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, after all.
How sad fundies are, participating in cultural theft, as they celebrate what was once the Pagan Winter Solstice Festival, unjustifiably kidnapped by a religion uttely bereft of it's own traditions, by an ideology of right-wing Paulian bigotry and depressed revenge fantasies.
Does it get to you guys at all, watching we Atheists reclaim in the name of Wiccans what was originally theirs , who - centuries, nay, millennia ago - were optimistic and loving life
...oh, and as for you fundies that do bring themselves to celebrate what is hypocrisy for you, denying the emptiness you guys feel, stealing other peoples' traditions that you have absolutely no right to whatsoever, disassociated with the real origin of this season's festivities?
Merry Fucking Xmas, RandomID82.
...not. [/"Wayne's World"] X3
You mean Santa Day ? A gift between two people always has a meaning. Why do Christians give gifts to other people on Jesus Birthday. I would not be happy if people didnt give me a gift on my birthday.
Spirit of the season ? you mean crass commercialism ?
Actually I don't like Christmas one tiny little bit, but the saving grace is watching these idiots celebrating a stolen pagan holiday in the mistaken belief that it marks the birthday of their "I am my own Father" Lord.
It's too funny, really. And anyway, I give and receive gifts, and I'm quite happy with my life. Trust me, it's not the atheists who are bitter and twisted cynics.
What the FUCK? Christians HATE life; that's why they're always moaning about how they want Jeebus to come and take them away from the horrible world their evil overlord fairy goddaddy made for them.
And news flash, cockmongler- I give gifts at Christmastime because I enjoy giving things to people. The only reason you fucknuts do it is because you're looking to score points with Gawd.
"See, invisible superstition that chains me to irrationality, I'm a good ickle babble-thumper.
As for being disassociated from the spirit of the season? You are an ass. You think of your family, the poor, the disenfranchised, ONLY at this time of year (it's Dec. 23 as I write this.) If you were a really good Christian, y'know, like Christ, it would be Christmas all the time. Me, I always think about my family.
My life is quite fulfilled, thank you. I have no doubts about my place in the universe, I have no concerns about my eternity, and I am very much at peace with myself. And you can believe that or not, I really could give a shit.
How Sad must Theists be on Saturnalia. Watching all the pagans running around happy, giving gifts to their family members, singing Saturnalia carols... oh, and running around happy (didn't I mention the happy part [[giveup]] )
Theism is an ideology of cynicism and depressed skepticism, pining for an unproven afterlife with an invisible sky-pixie... does it get to you guys at all, watching people being optimistic and loving life [[smile]]
I pity Theists really [[no]]
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