[[Response to; "Perfect Loving Omni God Vs Ordering Genocide and Murder
Why would an all-powerful, loving, and perfect Creator ask humans to commit genocide and murder so often? For one thing, can't he do his own dirty work?"]]
If God says to do it, then it is good to do. And as far as God doing His own work, ever heard of Noah and the flood? Have you ever read Revelations?
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First of all, anyone who says "If God says to do it, then it is good to do" is scary as hell and should be observed closely by state and federal authorities at the very least or locked away at best.
Second, Revelation (note the lack of an 's' at the end?) is considered by most Christian denominations as describing future events. Also, there's no evidence whatever that Noah ever existed and certainly no evidence for a global flood. As such, both of your examples, well, suck.
Actually, before the Bible was written there was a story called Gilgamesh written in Sumerian. Apparently, people were partying too much and were keeping this one god up at night, so he decided to flood the entire world. Then this other god told a guy named Utnapishtim to build an arc, gather animals, yada yada yada.
Also in the story, a snake steals a youth-giving plant from Gilgamesh. Hm, serpents screwing humans. That sounds familiar.
In conclusion, the Bible is likely a plagiarism of Gilgamesh.
(Though, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe there are many cultures that talk about a huge flood, so there must have been some kind of big flood at one point in history.)
@352507
Considering floods aren't an entirely uncommon occurence, I'd say that yeah, over the thousands of years of human history, there may have been at least one or two major floods in that area.
For an atheist, murder is always wrong. For a fundamentalist, murder is wrong except when the sky daddy says it's ok, at which time it becomes a sacred act. My question for the fundamentalists is: How does your version of god let you know that he/she/it wants you to kill?
"If God says to do it, then it is good to do."
Wasn't this defense used by nazi leaders on trial after WWII?
@Kinderklein
I read a few places that that commandment in true translation has it's own built in loophole. Thou shalt not spill innocent blood, or something to that effect. Of course, this is hearsay, and as such should be taken with a grain of salt.
And as far as God doing His own work, ever heard of Noah and the flood?
Yeah - evidently, assuming that unverified myth borrowed from countless other cultures is even true, he can flood an entire planet but he's incapable of building a fucking boat.
If God says to do it, then it is good to do
Reminds me of the old George Carlin routine, "I used to be an Irish Catholic", where the kids would ask the priest questions of faith and he'd answer "it's a mystery ..."
BTW, Revelation describes a fantasy vision.
I stopped reading fairy tales when I no longer needed a bedtime story, thanks.
I guess some people's intelligence stop growing. "God told me to do it!" is not a viable defense in court, dipshit.
I wonder, if "god" told IronManMatt to rape an 8 year old and then brutally murder her and dump her in a ditch, would it then be good to do?
If "god" told me to murder my husband, and I really believed god told me to do it, I STILL wouldn't fucking do it, because just because god says it, doesn't make it good or right or any of that shit.
"Airee, I command thee, as the Lord Thy God, you must sacrifice thy greatest love to me, as a burnt offering, and it will be good in mine sight."
"...No."
"But...I'm god. Thy hast to. I command thee."
"Dude, still no."
"...oh. nvm then."
"yeah."
I've heard of Noah and the flood. Merely because I've heard of them doesn't ipso fact mean that they existed. The same would then have to apply to Santa Claus, Harry Potter, and every other fictitious person, creature, or event.
And I'd rather read "War And Peace" in Swahili (a language I don't know a single word of) than read Revelations.
What god commands is good. Does god command it because it is good? Or is it good because god commands it?
Technically, option two brings up a host of issues, but it is a possibility... and there are those who have accepted it.
Of course I've read the Revelation. I am also familiar with about 100 years of various interpretations which argue that the events in The Revelation are playing out in the time of the writer. That's part of what convinced me that the bible was bunk.
Education, you should try it sometime.
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