[...] When one gets up on a high horse, something will come along to knock you off of it. It reminds me of the time my then 17 year old was taunting God. He was sitting at our kitchen table and we were having a discussion about God. We were teaching him about attitude and warning him that if he didn't straighten up that God would step in. He said "bring it on". We were wide eyed and said you have no idea what you are talking about. That night skiing he broke in arm so badly they had to ambulance him to the hospital for emergency surgery and put pins in his bones to hold it together. The next day he apologized to us and to God for his attitude and he is now married, 24 and just finished bible college and is a pastor. [...]
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I suspect it's a ridiculous concoction(how can somebody marry, then finish college without what to live and be a pastor all in five minutes?. Moreover, I have a cousin who's a doctor and no traumatism has to be sawn with pins) but anyway, lots of atheist, agnostics and others have broken limbs and worse things and they don't turn into pastors. Accidents are just.............accidents. And miracles are in the Bible, this type of "chastisments", well, even then were considered oportunist.
Gosh, I've cussed out god hundreds of times and never had anything bad happen to me. Perhaps he only visits personal retribution on his own followers?
Another reason not to be one.
Tell me, Kathe. When he broke his arm, did you:
A) Give him comfort and reassurance, as any decent parent would?
B) Go straight for the: "I told you god would punish you for taunting him?"
Assuming you have night-time skiing facilities within a matter of hours' travel from your kitchen table and aren't making this shit up, let's look at the facts.
Your 17 year old challenges your alleged deity in a discussion at the kitchen table. Nothing happens. Presumably hours later, whilst practicing an inherently dangerous activity, he has a nasty accident. Possibly he had some subconscious belief that god was watching him, so his concentration and reflexes may have suffered. Nevertheless, the event transpired in such a way that your alleged divine action was indistinguishable from random chance. The rational conclusion is that your god had no verifiable influence on events. Even if your god does exist, he failed miserably to demonstrate his existence and divinity by failing to distinguish himself from normal causality and random chance.
I know a guy who dared God to strike him down. Nothing happened for a few decades but when he was 85 he died of a heart attack. There's proof that God punishes those who don't submit to his will.
I also know a sweet old woman who had great faith. She was healthy and happy. When she was 84 God took her to her reward by letting her die peacefully in her sleep of a heart attack. Proof that God rewards those who have faith.
Fundie logic.
Ah. Another "God Is a Bully" fundie. If God is really that vindictive and mean, then I'll take my chances with the other guy, thanks.
Good thing God isn't that way.
As for this idiots son...I would not want to go to a church pastored by a man who believes God shattered his arm to teach him a lesson. We put men who do that in prison...
What a kind and merciful god. In the past, he'd just smite the rotten SOB and be done with it.
Just goes to show, we all mellow with age.
Almighty God, if You want me to believe in You, I beseech You to give me a sign. Let an angel with a flaming sword appear in my office within five seconds.
Five one thousand.
Four one thousand.
Three one thousand.
Two one thousand.
One one thousand.
I guess God doesn't want me to believe in Him. Does anyone dare question God's will?
He was skiiing at night. He broke an arm. It's painful and unpleasant, but it happens.
Most people break several bones in the course of their lives, and most people have several accidents of varying severity over the course of their lives. It doesn't mean that God is punishing you. It means that accidents happen when we're not careful, and sometimes even if we are.
I don't even know what to say, except for that this story is somewhat disturbing in a way that I can't quite put my finger on. Nothing like a strangely-timed accident to put the fear of God in you, I suppose.
When I was a kid, my dad dropped me headfirst into concrete. It was unintentional, of course, but now you can still feel the place in my head.
Was I supposed to become a priest? Was it a signal for my dad to stop being a brute? We may never know.
Oooh, that's good one. Have you heard this story?
http://www.snopes.com/glurge/rapestop.asp
This is the one about that time God arranged for an innocent girl to get raped, in order to spare the girl who prayed to him.
*Siiiigh* isn't God great like that?
Ok, so when Bible beleiving Christians get broken arms that's ..
What?
God being an ass? he really aimed for the atheist next door and missed? God really wants peopel to beleive in Odin?
Assuming that this story is even true.
Man, talk about a freak coincidence screwing your life up. Well, perhaps his life's not too badly screwed up, but he seemed to be on a better course before breaking his arm.
Also, what's 'bible college'? Is there such a place that can somehow dedicate more than a couple days to reading and interpretting the bible? Shit, it's not very long and it doesn't matter what it means because you're supposed to twist it into meaning whatever YOU want it to mean. Or at least that's what I usually see >_>
We were teaching him about attitude and warning him that if he didn't straighten up that God would step in.
And then soon after, he had a mysterious accident. Why do I get the idea that this kids parents were acting like the Cray twins?
Don't believe in god huh? Nice arm you have there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it. One quick "night ski trip" and all of a sudden he's a believer.
I wonder if the doctor in the ER bought the "He broke it skiing" line?
"That night skiing he broke in arm"
"The next day he apologized to us and to God"
"he is now married"
"just finished bible college"
"and is a pastor"
Wow, God really tortured this guy, huh?
That's funny, I said something similar to my parents, they agreed with me, and that was the end of it.
> That night skiing he broke in arm so badly they had to ambulance him to the hospital for emergency surgery and put pins in his bones to hold it together.
What, no lightning bolts? No earthquakes, tidal waves or landslides? God is losing his wrathful touch.
Oh good, just what the world needs. More fucking pastors.
Mind you, I detect a whiff of bullshit. He was skiing at night in your garden, or do you live on a mountain?
So, once again, you have shown your god to be nothing more than a petulant bully.
And you really think this makes your god seem loving and compassionate?
"The next day he apologized to us and to God for his attitude and he is now married, 24 and just finished bible college and is a pastor. [...]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_evangelist_scandals
...and years later, he'll be caught in flagrante delicto , being blown by a hooker/rent boy in his Maybach, whilst off his tits on crystal meth, on the way back to one of his several palatial homes, to crack one off to XXX porn on his 50" plasma screen & THX 7.1 surround-sound BOSE & Blu-Ray setup - all paid for via tithes, while his wife is selling lemonade at a church fundraiser.
Oh sorry, you can't hear me? Please excuse me, whilst I get off my very tall equine of superior Atheist morality.
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