“I’m currently going through ‘Created to be His Help Meet’ the second time. Recently, we received a phone call from a lady taking a survey on local businesses. She asked if I was ‘a head of household.’ I smiled and told her, ‘No, my husband is.’ She insisted, ‘Well, you are one of the heads of household.’ I laughed out loud. A month ago, I might have agreed with her, but tonight her comment brought to mind the picture of a two-headed dragon. Both heads were trying to go in a difference direction, so, getting frustrated, each began blowing flames and scorching the other’s head. I thought about how odd it is that we even consider a two-headed household as normal. I mean, if we saw a two-headed sheep standing out in the field, we’d rightly think, ‘There is something terribly wrong with that!’ Our society is full of two-headed monsters. It’s good to be on the outside. Eventually, I might have figured this out on my own, but I’m glad to have had the privilege of being taught by Debi to be a proper help meet and keeper of my home!”
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Congratulations, Lois!
Now get off the computer and into the kitchen, cook for your hubby and homeschool your many kids ...
Two headed dragon - wtf!?
"I’m glad to have had the privilege of being taught by Debi to be a proper help meet and keeper of my home!"
What, wasn't von Sacher-Masoch available then?
"Eventually, I might have figured this out on my own, but I’m glad to have had the privilege of being taught by Debi to be a proper help meet and keeper of my home!"
Translation: I can't think on my own at all so I let other decide everything for me.
Sure, a two headed dragon shooting flames at each other sucks for the dragon, but imagine what could happen when those two heads work together. Instead of one fire breathing dragon head you'd have two to deal with!
Isn't that what relationships are supposed to be about? Teamwork? Cooperation? Compromise? Love? What the hell is the point when one is just subservient to the other?
"mean, if we saw a two-headed sheep standing out in the field, we’d rightly think, There is something terribly wrong with that!"
and yet these girls do just fine.
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you know waht the difference is? people communicate and cooperate, and sheep don't.
households work the same way.
It's funny, because monsters don't exist, to begin with, with one, two or three, for that matter. And that dicotomy exists. In fact, enterprises, workshops and other institutions work that way, with two bosses. And indeed, a marriage is the same. The help-mate and the stuff is both a bad translation and an opinion from the guys who wrote it, not God's. Moreover, if the woman is to be subordinate of the man FOR NO GOOD REASON, how do you reconcile it with the notion of free will, sin and responsibility before God?
This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of a brainwashing victim. Notice how she admits to her former way of thinking, but quickly rejects it. Notice her outlandish comparison to describe her former way of thinking. Notice how she thanks her brainwasher (Debi) for helping her to see the truth, but never expands on HOW this person "taught" her. Through it all, she never once has a single logical thought, but rather proclaims her decision to become a doormat. This quote is more sad than funny when you look at it.
@Jocelyn
Can anyone explain what "help meet" means?
It's an example of modern people misreading the Elizabethan English of the KJV. In Genesis 2:18, the KJV says: "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
"Meet" in this case is an adjective, meaning "suitable or fit."
So the quote really means "I will make him a helper fit for him", and what is going on is the idea that women work well together with men, and nothing else that God had created (such as all the animals) had the capacity to be Adam's partner.
I've wondered why the two ideas: "women work well with men" and "a man needs the help of a woman" seem to combine together in fundies' minds as "women should stay home and do the laundry."
Oh, and Jonathan: great response. You, sir, win an internet.
and yet these girls do just fine.
Epically owned. #370805 doesn't just win the internet, but the whole damn planet!
Though I can only imagine what it must be like if they ever do get into an argument...
what is a woman doing, writing a book? She's stealing time from her husband who has a right to 24/7 commitment, rather than a woman giving time to her own amusements. And equally importantly, a woman has no place telling others (even women) how to act. That's for the husband to do, even if it means using loving chastisement
" brought to mind the picture of a two-headed dragon. Both heads were trying to go in a difference direction, so, getting frustrated, each began blowing flames and scorching the other’s head. "
I get that image whenever a fundie claims the religion of another fundie isn't the real religion.
While this isn't a lifestyle I'd think that I'd be comfortable with, isn't it Lois's choice? The only problem I have with that statement is Lois finding fault with the choices that other people make ("There is something terribly wrong with that").
Frankly, there is nothing wrong with her staying at home being a "help meet," nor is there any issue with a couple where both want to work.
It would be nice if there were more tolerance by all people for differences of opinions - but I guess tolerance isn't really the goal of this particular website.
Great Scott! wrote
It would be nice if there were more tolerance by all people for differences of opinions - but I guess tolerance isn't really the goal of this particular website.
The Debi in question is a supporter of beating children, including small babies, with sticks. If you have a strong stomach check out Mike and Debi Pearl's website, 'No Greater Joy' for info on their sadistic practices involving minors. They openly admit to whipping their four month old daughter and discuss how to avoid being prosecuted for child abuse. I see no reason to tolerate that, indeed, were they in my country I'd have reported them to the authorities.
@Great Scott!
"The only problem I have with that statement is Lois finding fault with the choices that other people make ("There is something terribly wrong with that")."
That's not a small problem. It's one thing to make a choice for one's own life, but quite another to call those who have made a different choice "terribly wrong" and "two-headed monsters." Appealing to tolerance is just a bit ironic.
They speak about a monster with two heads, a created creature, and they consider themselves "created to be his help-mate", as if she were a commodity for the man. Amazing!!
Good old 21st century slavery justified by the Book! Wonderful.
It is interesting Lois is on her second time through the garbage - obviously it took a while to rid herself of those sill notions of equality and liberty.
Aside: why do I never meet slavish women like this!
So... everybody in an equal relationship turns into a dragon-like, power-hungry, uncooperative beotch?
How about, you know, sharing? Working together? Dealing with differences maturely, and accepting and respecting the other side? Stuff we were all supposed to learn in kindergarden?
My husband would despise me if I ever acted like such a worthless, brainless, spineless little doormat. And I wouldn't blame him.
Seriously tho, what kind of a loser guy has such low self-esteem that he wants a mate without a personality or mind of her own? Who could bear living with someone who is completely incompetent unless you're there to boss her around? Ugh!
Lois, you are a stupid bitch and you are an embarrassment to the rest of us females.
@Pallie:
What kind of loser wants a woman like that? Losers like Bro. Randy, Fred Phelps, and their ilk. Emotionally unstable, mentally weak, moral cowards who only want a punching bag to feel superior to (and occasionally use as a sex doll).
In other words, nobody of any worth.
Holy shit, read the rest of the testimonials for a real sickening experience. I got as far as a woman who was going to take her two daughters and leave her pot smoking, piece of shit husband but then because of the book decided to stay and keep herself and her daughters in a dangerous and unsafe situation. This book somehow convinced her that it would be better to stay with a slob doing illegal activity (which could lead to the state taking away her daughters...and the foster care system in the U.S. isn't the greatest) than to teach them that they deserve a good life with people who care for them and will keep them safe.
Good fucking job, Debi.
God I feel sick.
@ Traitor1
they have a few articles on no greater joy where they answer letters from abused women with something along the lines of 'unless he's actually in the middle killing you you should stay there and honour him. if he is in the middle of killing you you should tell your church, and then if he does it again report him to the police. when he gets jail time you should go visit him and faithfully wait for him to get out.'
Sweetie, if being a sub does it for you, I congratulate you on finding a husband with interlocking preferences, and hope you have many years of safe, sane and consensual happiness. However, try to remember, this is your kink, and doesn't represent vast swathes of womankind
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