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[But although I'm a Christian, I understand that there are a lot of people in America who aren't Christian. I just don't think we should impose our views on them by force(which is what puttion those views into law is, force).]

Then we should have closed our borders when we were a Christian nation and told others to stay out. Our nation was loving and safe and peaceful when we followed the 10 Commandments. The more that we appease those who reject those laws the more this country is in danger of being released from the protective hand of God and being destroyed from within or without.


Emily Ruth, Rapture Ready 48 Comments [11/26/2007 4:04:48 PM]
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Gevamna

And when, exactly, were we a Christian nation?

11/26/2007 4:18:00 PM

Fanatic-Templar

After Christ died at the Alamo fighting the Hitlerian Islamofascists, but before the Evil Atheist Conspiracy started hunting down True Christians and catapulting them into the Sun as a sacrifice to the Atheistic Sun God.

You know, 721-987 AD. The Golden Years of the United States of America.

11/26/2007 4:23:27 PM

APD

Right. OK, firstly, you guys were never a Christian nation, many of your founders were Deists anyway, most people follow the 10 commandments regardless of religion(they're very, very basic morals) and isolationist theocracy is not the way to go.

11/26/2007 4:26:40 PM

LabRat

**coughsalemcough**

11/26/2007 4:28:11 PM



Just one and forever. You're not God's pet, get the message. You have never followed the ten commandments and you've never been totally safe, let alone loving. Third, you're not a Christian nation and you're not superior to anyone to close your frontiers.

11/26/2007 4:29:06 PM

aqualung

FAIL. Go back to American History 101.

11/26/2007 4:30:09 PM

The Arrogant Atheist

I see this hasn't been done yet so I feel like I ought to... Ahem...


[size=20]Treaty of Tripoli BITCH![/size]

11/26/2007 4:30:18 PM

Caustic Gnostic

History revision much?

11/26/2007 4:32:04 PM

Joe-Bob

Coulda woulda shoulda...

11/26/2007 4:36:34 PM

Nowonmai

Emily, you ignorant nitwit. The US was never a "christian nation', and the sooner you stupid f**king fundies get that through your thick skulls, the better off the US will be.

11/26/2007 4:38:03 PM

Doctor Whom

Then we should have closed our borders when we were a nation that followed the Native American religions and told others to stay out.

There. Fixed it for you.

11/26/2007 4:38:35 PM

Horsefeathers

"Then we should have closed our borders when we were a Christian nation and told others to stay out."

Unfortunately for you we've never been a "Christian nation". Check out the Treaty of Tripoli.

"Our nation was loving and safe and peaceful when we followed the 10 Commandments."

We, as a whole, have never followed the 10 Commandments. Most of you fundies have trouble following them too so I can't imagine how you expect an entire nation did it.

"The more that we appease those who reject those laws the more this country is in danger of being released from the protective hand of God and being destroyed from within or without."

Protective hand of God? Have you not been paying attention to the news for the last few years? Your deity hasn't protected us from jack shit.

11/26/2007 4:38:53 PM

Nowonmai

The Arrogant Atheist, it has been done, but fundies redact it.

11/26/2007 4:39:29 PM

Freboy

Unless the native Americans were christian, that never was a christian nation.

11/26/2007 4:56:39 PM

szena

Our nation was loving and safe and peaceful when we followed the 10 Commandments.


The puritans fell upon a Pequot fortress on the Mystic River. After setting the Indians' wigwams ablaze, the soldiers proceeded to shoot and hack to pieces anyone who tried to escape the inferno. By the end of the day, approximately four hundred Pequot men, women and children were dead. "It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire and the streams of blood quenching the same," Bradford wrote, "and horrible was the stink and scent thereof; but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they gave the praise thereof to God." (from _Mayflower_, Nathaniel Philbrick.)

11/26/2007 4:58:53 PM

Amanda

So there was one point when absolutely everybody was Christian? When was this?

11/26/2007 5:13:28 PM

PhantasyElementz

Give me ONE decade, one SINGLE decade, when this country was "loving and safe and peaceful" and totally followed said commandments?

As someone currently enrolled in U.S. history, I think it's safe for me to say YOU FAIL.

11/26/2007 5:23:11 PM



WHEN has the U.S. as a country strictly adhered to the Ten Commandments?

1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make for thyself an idol
(Well, let's see, we're a nation of immigrants and not all immigrants are Christian. Plus, we have plenty of idols. We call them "celebrities.")

2. Thou shalt not make wrongful use of the name of thy God.
(Is it even possible to walk down the street without hearing someone "use the Lord's name in vain?")

3. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy
(Considering that some business do open on Saturdays and Sundays, I'd say that one's ruled out.)

4. Honor thy Father and Mother
(Kip Kinkel would like to have a word with you from prison.)

5. Thou shalt not kill
(Well, you can't really go to war, which we have done on numerous occasions, and obey this at the same time. I don't care if you consider the enemy to be subhuman, it's still killing.)

6. Thou shalt not commit adultery
(Tell that to Bill Clinton, John F. Kennedy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Rudy Giuliani, and the many other politicians who cheated on their spouses.)

7. Thou shalt not steal
(Tell that to the Native Americans.)

8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
(Barry Bonds and George W. Bush ought to be deported, then! Lying in this great country of ours, for shame!)

9.Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.
(See #6.)

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.
(Or thy neighbor's country, but when has that ever stopped us?)

11/26/2007 5:30:14 PM

MrBadAxe

"Our nation was loving and safe and peaceful when we followed the 10 Commandments."

Salem.

11/26/2007 5:40:47 PM

Nick

Who is C-man in that thread? He seems like one of us.

11/26/2007 5:58:02 PM

Jake Steel

"Our nation was loving and safe and peaceful when we followed the 10 Commandments"

except for when we slaughtered the indians in the quest for land right? ....oh and the salem witch trials.....and slavery....

11/26/2007 5:58:31 PM

Osiris

Fun fact: America was never a Christian nation.

11/26/2007 6:02:48 PM

Damen

For all those who cited Salem in rebuttal to our dear, deluded fundie friend here, I feel I must point out that Emmy likely considers those smoldering embers and dangling corpses to be the height of Gawd's righteous justice and holy love.

11/26/2007 6:17:15 PM

flipper

What country do you live in Emily Ruth, Vatican City? Good thing that we live in America where we have never had to worry about that kind of theocratic society and have always had freedom of religion!

11/26/2007 6:32:08 PM

John

Almost no one rejects commandments five through ten, regardless of their religion or culture. And although there are no actual laws forbidding adultery, coveting other people or dishonoring one's parents, no one really admires people who do these things.

The first four commandments say nothing about our behavior toward our fellow man. They deal with the Sabbath, graven images and "taking God's name in vain. Christians disagree on when the Sabbath is, have killed each other over the definition of a "graven image", and no two people agree on what the hell "taking God's name in vain" means.

So exactly what "laws" are Emily claiming we reject?

11/26/2007 6:57:26 PM
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